Tone...

Discussion in 'Guitar Lessons, Tutorials & Tips' started by sgt.misery, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. sgt.misery

    sgt.misery New Member

    All Tone Settings - Settings and Gear

    Nice site for tone settings I tried out a couple of the settings and they are good. Especially the Synyster Gates one. However cant get anywhere near Dime's tone...Any ideas??
    Also wud be gud if sum1 cud post Loomis tone settings.
     
  2. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    Dimebag's tone?

    Pantera age:
    Boss MT-2
    Gain = 11/10
    Bass = 0/10 (about 100-125 Hz)
    Mids = 0/10 (about 500-2000)
    High mids = 5/10 (about 2000-4000)
    Treble = 10/10 (above 4000)

    :p:
     
  3. wylder

    wylder New Member

    What's your gear like?

    I can get a pretty decent tone for Dime's Cemetery Gates tone with a Boss MT-2 and basic delay.
    I will give it a try at home tonight and post the settings.
     
  4. sgt.misery

    sgt.misery New Member

    Well this aint my rig...my friend's gear on which we tried out...
    Korg AX 3000G processor
    Hartke G30R amp
    Schecter Hellraiser C-1 guitar
    I was kinda looking for the tone used in "Floods". But do post the "Cemetery Gates" settings too.
     
  5. guitarplayer729

    guitarplayer729 New Member

    whats ur rig???
     
  6. sgt.misery

    sgt.misery New Member

    Well i m using Digitech Grunge and laney lx 20 with my squier strat....dont think i can get dime's tone with that rig...so using my friend's rig...
     
  7. guitarplayer729

    guitarplayer729 New Member

    well u can get close to it just by using ur rig
    i got close to the kill em all tone for metallica by using my metal zone and lx12
     
  8. sgt.misery

    sgt.misery New Member

  9. mymusicmyguitar

    mymusicmyguitar New Member

    Did u try lowering the Low and increasing the High and turning the grunge knob higher?....I think u can get pretty close to dimes tone...However amp will make a huge difference to the tone....Not tried on Laney lx20....
     
  10. rickkkyrich

    rickkkyrich Guest

    Dimebag had a really bad tone...
     
  11. sgt.misery

    sgt.misery New Member

    @rickkkyrich lol comment...
     
  12. sgt.misery

    sgt.misery New Member

    well increasing the grunge and high kinda makes it real noisy....can u give me the exact settings u use..
     
  13. wylder

    wylder New Member

    On my Metal zone, I need to cut out a bit of lo mids (mid freq around 9 o'clock and mid level around 10) and keep bass and treble at around 12 o'clock. On the amp I scoop out the mids a bit. Basically, I set my clean tone first to sound something like his using the amp's eq.

    I don't boost the bass too much on the unit as it makes my amp sound loose bottomed. Similarly, boosting highs gives the Static-X tone.

    For the solo parts where you require a lot of harmonic overtones and feedback (Cemetary gates intro part before the heavy riff) you can use an overdrive before Metal Zone with the tone set a bit bright. But yes, this makes things a bit noisy and you need to practice muting a lot.
     
  14. mymusicmyguitar

    mymusicmyguitar New Member

    Yes its bound to get noisy with very high gain....

    Make sure u have selected the Humbucker on the guitar.

    I do get the Dime tone with my Ibanez Sabre + Overdrive + Grunge ...Its noise level is to the acceptable level.....
     
  15. guitarplayer729

    guitarplayer729 New Member

    we can also lower the overdrive pedal's gain to about 1 quarter
    and add it before the dist pedal to make the distortion more firm and bright
    and to fix the loose ends of the distortion sometime
     
  16. sgt.misery

    sgt.misery New Member

    Well now I am getting a cool Slash kinda tone from my Grunge (Low 5 o'clock High 1 o'clock Grunge 1 o'clock) the dimebag one is coming real messy...but i m cool with this new awesome tone :)
     
  17. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    Actually - DONT get fixated by the EQ settings and drive/gain settings.

    The audible perception of these things change with the loudness.
    The louder the sound levels - the more bassy and middy your guitar will sound.
    The louder the sound levels - the less compressed (and therefore), the less gainy your setting will sound
    The louder the sound levels - the more sustain you will get, even though you are at low gain/drive

    So what does this mean?
    This means that you will use your setting at bedroom or jam room levels.
    But it will not sound the same when you play it loud - on stage.
    Similarly while recording - if you can make it as loud as stage levels - then your recording will sound more "real" - than recording at bedroom levels.
     
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  18. wylder

    wylder New Member

    That is kinda the cool thing about guitar tone.
    After a while, you fall in love with your tone and realize that you really don't need a lot of different tones for most of the stuff you play. Maybe a little fiddling with the gain knob or eq between songs and you are good to go :)

    Also, the pickup switch, the volume and tone knobs on the guitar are very useful on the go to control the gain and brightness. Experiment during practice sessions...
     
  19. wylder

    wylder New Member

    That's interesting... Is this for sound in general or guitar amp sounds only?

    On a tube amp if you turn up the volume, you can get more sustain with less preamp drive due to power amp compression.
    Also, louder sound levels will give you more sustain due to feedback/resonance (for this you have to play in the same room as the amp).
    Also tubes when running hot tend to emphasize the mids a little more and limit the treble.

    On the other hand, I guess that as you increase the power to a speaker, the output tends to get brighter due to physical resistance of the speaker cone to low frequency vibration at large amplitudes.
     
  20. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    This is a general audible sound thingie.
    Nothing to do with guitar amp or anything.

    Look up for Equal loudness contours - ISO 226.
    At different decibels levels, your ears "hear" loudness of each frequency differently.
    This loudness "heard" is measured in Phons.
     
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