Music swar Notations

Discussion in 'Beginner's Q&A Forum' started by deveshs, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. deveshs

    deveshs New Member

    can any body give me mapping of english swars like E D G F upon Sa Re Ga Ma...
    if Any body then please...

  2. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    saregamapadhanisa respectively
    If you start with C as tonic
  3. sixstringsin

    sixstringsin ||||||

    guess playing the notes CDEFGABC= playing the swars: sa re ga ma pa dha ni sa
  4. vini

    vini Repeat Offender

    @ sixstring

    Yes..u guessed that right!
  5. sixstringsin

    sixstringsin ||||||

    ok - was jst wondering abt this mapping - coz on the fretboard one can play sa re ga ma ... starting from any fret on the same string rite? Like start anywhere as sa and 1 whole step down the fret is re ..again 1WS down is ga and half is ma and then 1W is pa 1WS is dha 1 WS is ni and 1H is sa. But the point from where I begin is just arbitrairy rite? so in the EBGDAE format the starting point is not likely to be C always.
    abhijit/anyone can u please elaborate and enlighten me more on that *if u start with c as tonic*
    bole to .. *else* what ??
  6. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    That is the whole funda
    The Western concept of scales is based on absolute pitches ie 440 Hz is A and so on for other notes.
    So when you start playing Sa Re Ga Ma etc starting from A, it becomes A B C# D E F# G# A, whereas from C it would be CDEFGABC. This is the basis of the key signature concept.
    In the Indian context, there is no such absolute pitch. The vocalist starts from an arbitrary starting point (aka the tonic) and sings whichever raga or mode starting from there. It is inherently a modal system, where the order and choice of notes determine the feel of the song. So when a Western and Indian musician play together, they have to decide which note the Indian guy is going to use as the starting note and play from there.
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  7. sixstringsin

    sixstringsin ||||||

    ^ -- that clarifies ..reps 2 u!!
  8. deveshs

    deveshs New Member

    Yep!! thnaks to all of u
  9. bjr

    bjr Lady of the Evening

    I think Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do is a more direct co-relation.

    Co-relate Do Re Mi Fa to the major scale.
  10. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    Thank you :beer:
  11. .:SpY_GaMe:.

    .:SpY_GaMe:. New Member

    may sound crap mbut just a tip of how i remember that


  12. ambush

    ambush _RASTA_man_

    is there some way to remember the notes in reverse
  13. sixstringsin

    sixstringsin ||||||

    ^ lol :) .. Bryan Adamz Girl Friend Eats Dead Crabs?
  14. ElysiaN

    ElysiaN d@Rk\/\/@|\|deReR

    :think: hey ...just wondering is there any sa re ga ma kinda mapping for minor scales also?
  15. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    Yes.. A minor is ABCDEFGA:)
    The third, sixth and seventh are flattened a half step from the major scale.
  16. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    I have one question: why do you want everything in Sa Re Ga Ma etc?

    why not learn the new style of C D E F G A B etc?
  17. ElysiaN

    ElysiaN d@Rk\/\/@|\|deReR

    that's ok...but is there any similar thing in hindi sa re ga ma...consider C minor scale C D Eb F G Ab Bb C.
    m not tryin to learn everything in sa re ga ma...but just wodering if there is something similar in indian classical too...
  18. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    Sa Re komal Ga Ma Pa Komal Dha Komal Ni Sa
    Its loosely the same as raga Natabhairavi
  19. ElysiaN

    ElysiaN d@Rk\/\/@|\|deReR

    gr8...thanx abhijit...that means komal notes in hindi r loosely equivalent to flat notes ...
  20. sixstringsin

    sixstringsin ||||||

    ^ yeah and AFAIK the sharps are called 'teevra'

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