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Discussion in 'Poetry and Lyrics Forum' started by madhuresh, Feb 23, 2006.

  1. madhuresh

    madhuresh madhuresh

    How to write poetry
    (I am myself crazy enough to say any thing but I will try)

    Have seen many ppl here on the forum writing they don’t know what poetry is or have problems with their language and so on..So this one to is to tell them some thing that if u have a "new, nice, different, compelling, beautiful, problematic,
    pragmatic, predicament, humorous, funny, extremely lethargic or fanatically
    laughable" situation, thought or event that u can not contain in ur self write it
    express it and that would be literary, will be poetic.
    Now how do i think this can be expressed....ammm haan thik hai...See when a million pages of text r written to describe a situation stand-straight and firm like a MAN, simply go and ask what is ur name ? haha the MAN's name is poetry...and here it comes to help me
    In my own lines

    Example 1

    i am just a poet who just needs a pen,
    some nice thoughts to write,& rhymes that should blen~nd
    i observe i don’t just say, in most amusing way
    thoughts sleeps-calm, when poems End !

    Example 2

    i am just a poet who doesn’t needs a pen,
    some nice thoughts to write, or rhymes that should blen~nd
    what i feel i just say, in my clumsy way
    the poetry starts, when poems End !!

    both the categories r good enough to be in... i try to belong the second one.
    i think all people who write have these 2 sides now u know u have to choose where to go.....choice is important because if don’t then u have to create ur own road....

    Now, what to write ?

    i believe one must not write for a person place or thing ....write for what u feel about them, what the person place or thing feels about them.....In Indian context i believe we all r going to hear a lot of daisy rock (jaal, strings, shankar essan loy annu malik still needs time) beacause we are alredy following that pattern which was very prevalent in mid 1960s in america. Urdu is a very romantic language and English doesn’t covers the diversity so i believe hindi will be the best language to go with, sooner or later people will start writing about national and international issues or u can say that will be the focus ....we will go this way ....
    So we have discussed object and objectivity now lets see the nuts and bolts
    At first start with lines which can rhyme and try to fit ur idea in it, later say a couple of poems, u will be so confidant that these words will come to u with ease and all u need is just a good thought...........


    for a good poem like all other literary forms; don’t let ur reader know where u r goanna land ....so either take a very curvaceous path (ornamental...read Milton) and reach ur idea or reach straight but oblique way ( like storys of O.Henry)...both work well but even in ur initial try be crystal clear about the point where u touch the ground....how i think about poets is most had a lot of stuff in their life its-self for eg...................

    eg1 (oblique way)

    I'm nobody! Who are you?
    Are you nobody, too?
    Then there's a pair of us -- don't tell!
    They'd banish us, you know.

    How dreary to be somebody!
    How public, like a frog
    To tell your name the livelong day
    To an admiring bog!

    Emily dickson
    what a name imli(hindi) dick son ....ok leave it

    eg 2 round-round way...

    Two roads diverged in a yellow wood
    and sorry I could not travel both
    And be one traveller, long I stood
    and looked down one as far as I could
    to where it bent in the undergrowth;

    Then took the other, as just as fair,
    and having perhaps the better claim
    because it was grassy and wanted wear;
    though as for that, the passing there
    had worn them really about the same,

    And both that morning equally lay
    in leaves no feet had trodden black.
    Oh, I kept the first for another day!
    Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
    I doubted if I should ever come back.

    I shall be telling this with a sigh
    Somewhere ages and ages hence:
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
    I took the one less travelled by,
    and that has made all the difference

    Robert frost

    Percy Bysshe Shelley (1792-1822)

    Percy Bysshe Shelley was born in Horsham, Sus*** the son of a Whig landowner. He as educated at Eton and Oxford, from which he was sent down in 1811 for writing a pamphlet on atheism. This, together with his elopement with and marriage to the sixteen year-old Harriet Westbrook in the same year, caused an irreparable breach with his family.
    Shelley later abandoned Harriet for Mary Wollstonecraft, whom he married after Harriet's suicide. Shelley's latter years were spent in the company of other literary and political exiles in Italy, where he enjoyed a greater freedom to express his revolutionary ideas. He drowned at sea in the Bay of Spezia.
    Shelley is without doubt one of the great Romantic poets who, in spite of his turbulent and colorful life, produced works which are full of passion, creative energy, and lyrical beauty.

    I DONT SAY MAKE UR LIFE Pathetic...but observe things form different angles u will find something in all simple situations and put them in most simple words u have around u...
    and i tell u a secret u read something , u like it, don’t copy and paste it with ur name on the form....just say ones to the poet, nothing man i can put this idea in another way and 4 my sake think how can u do so ....it works every time i do it...
    never respect any thing too much it only makes u slave

    will continue about Hindi English and Urdu literature with some good examples i know a great Hindi poet( Padam shree:- Gopal das Neeraj) says

    aadami ko, aadami, bana ne ke liye
    iss zindagi main, pyaar ki, kahani chahiyee
    aur iss, kahani ko, likhne ke liye
    syaahi nahi, aankoo vala, paani chahiyee...(
    look so simple and simply great)

    I am not good with words nor with anything else in my life, so don’t read words nor me but see things around u simple, innocent, clumsy, silent, dirty uselessly-happy thing, what ever makes u think, write it on a paper and post here …
    any one reading this is invited to add his/her thoughts....
  2. UjSen

    UjSen *#!EVIL*!!

    i've been waiting for this for a looooooonnng tttttiiiiiiiiiiiimmee!
  3. madhuresh

    madhuresh madhuresh

    see u got it...haha :)
    Sirf hungama khada karna mera maksad nahi
    meri kosish hai ki ye surat badalni chahiyee...

    Mere seene main na ho, to tere seene main sahi
    Ho kahi bhi aag, lekin aag jalni chaahiye...

    courtesy...i dont know whome
  4. d_ist_urb_ed

    d_ist_urb_ed Genuflect b*tches!

    ^You are giving us a tutorial on how to write poetry? Bad times have surely enshrouded IGT....
  5. Varshita

    Varshita New Member

    tried hard to concentrate and read....
    *got bored
    blah blah blah...
  6. madhuresh

    madhuresh madhuresh

    no use wasting space so i read my own tutorials and came out with these two
    thats a rule never waste ur words unnecesarly
    i am free
    so i look at the grass, i look at the tree
    otherwise, i would have made my mind
    to only see things, which i should find
    no use lottrying around, no use tossing lost
    make money u man machine, know everones cost
    calcuate ur imagination, use someones logic
    measure ur smile, weigh how much tragic
    these word's dont change the world
    but need words to be heard
    before we all become history
    so i look at the grass, i look at the tree
    i'm free
    i start with an exclamation
    i paused with a comma
    i swing around with dictions
    intonations carry the drama
    take all steps before it die
    gotta keep moving high and high
    no no, dont go its lonley at the top
    here at this all i put a fullstop
    keep muddling with, some crap around
    that's a good change and will bring u down
    let ur pen have a peg of whisky
    so i look at the grass, i look at the tree
    i am free, i am free
    im free
    if have not hear that song...so many roads by greatful dead .....just put this...."so many roads" windows media player ..this will gie u the song...this all will definatly make sense

    Now getting ideas to write from ur normal life ..day to day activity
    little girl

    Pink frock, naive manners, eyes filled with fun
    The other day, came to my room, this little one

    as usual, went close, to my guitar
    Let me touch, i swear, not break the taar

    Caught her in a flash
    “Mummy ko ja ke bo lun gi”
    Raised my hand and innocently
    “Maroge to roo doon gi”

    left her, caught the idea, which led
    what I did and what she said……

    How many times, we adults, say this to thy
    Don't do this to me o lord, otherwise, i will cry
  7. Varshita

    Varshita New Member

    me and a pro :RollLol:
    that definately qualifies to be the joke of the day !!
  8. madhuresh

    madhuresh madhuresh

  9. Varshita

    Varshita New Member

    chords?? line and length??
    wat are you talking about??
    I just write.. never kept the poetry principles or theories in mind ( as others claim).. i m not even aware if they do exist :RollLol:
  10. d_ist_urb_ed

    d_ist_urb_ed Genuflect b*tches!

    @Madhuresh, i'm pretty sure i can already write infinitely better than you, thanks.
  11. vini

    vini Repeat Offender

    personally, i dont think people who are into poetry as amateurs really look forward for any poetry related tutorials n tips...but im sure those who give poetry a lot of weightage (seriously/professionally..whatever!) would definitely acknowledge ur effort..

    thanx for sharing! :)
  12. amit82cse

    amit82cse Silent observeR

    I treat poetry as an art and there is no harm learning it through tutorials and/or tips!!!
  13. madhuresh

    madhuresh madhuresh

    hey koi kuch bhi kahee i do my work.....so aspiring poet
    here is an idea which i have but dont have words for it :(
    a stone artis made two sculptures
    1> stone man with a heart of glass
    2> a glass beauty(lady, girl) with a stone heart
    both incomplete, both with the characterstics of these substances used .... now what can be their story ...can u write a poem on that...is this situation poetic??? it is so pen down !

    this is just an idea waht i want is to put it in such a new fresh and mod senario that this will change its meaning....Here their will be a fight of lust and logic ...[logic]u know what a stone hearted (babe) can think off
    [lust] "still i need her" no beacause no logic to support.........;)
  14. bjr

    bjr Lady of the Evening

    Down by where the black roses grow
    live the broken-hearted love never did know
    haunted by their fading memories' ghosts
    and theyre not quite sure if theyre alone

    she's got a heart, made of glass
    and she lives, in the past
    her mind spills, upon
    graceful, car crash

    and you know their hopes are facing certain doom
    glass hearts put together and stained with gloom
    they know the last chance is gonna pass soon
    gotta stay rather abstract not to sing the blues

    he's got a life, un-lived
    all he wanted, was to give
    the world, to her
    but his feelings, she returned

    down by where the black roses grow
    live the broken-hearted love never did know
    haunted by their fading memories' ghosts
    and theyre not quite sure if theyre alone

    i'm singin'
    down by where the black roses grow
    live the broken-hearted love never did know
    haunted by their fading memories' ghosts
    and theyre not quite sure if theyre alone

    Not mine, just remembering a friend and smiling.
  15. madhuresh

    madhuresh madhuresh

  16. d_ist_urb_ed

    d_ist_urb_ed Genuflect b*tches!

    ^Chalo, tumhara tutorial se to ek poet ka janam ho gaya:grin:
  17. madhuresh

    madhuresh madhuresh


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