Beginner to electric guitar

Discussion in 'Guitar Gear Talk Forum' started by Guitarnewb101, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    Hi all,
    I have spent two years playing my acoustic guitar. Now I have made up my mind to get a brand new electric guitar.
    On googling, I found this model from Yamaha suiting to my needs -

    Yamaha 012
    PAC012 - Pacifica - Electric Guitars - Guitars & Basses - Musical Instruments - Products - Yamaha United States

    Its a quite popular guitar in our country I reckon, and several reviews cite how good it sounds compared to it;s price.

    I am thinking of getting a Laney/marshall Amp with that. How does that sound??
     
  2. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    It sounds dandy.

    But the most important question at this stage would be: do you know what you want from a guitar "tonewise" and what would be your definition of "preferred sound".
     
  3. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    Well, I like to hear metal , rock (both soft and hard) and pop. I am into (numbered acc. to preference) --

    1.Metallica, Bon Jovi, Led Zeppelin, AC DC, KISS, Creed, Jimi hendrix

    2.Green Day, Jack Johnson, , Bryan Adams, Nickleback, Guns and Roses,

    3. Matchbox 20, the Eagles, Westlife, Linkin Park

    it seems that I am more into rock, but I wud also very much like to play other genres too. But a little preference goes to rock/metal I guess.

    I wud like to add the following to my current options-

    1. Fender Bullet Strat
    FenderĀ® Products

    2. Dean Vendetta XMT
    Dean Electric Guitars-Acoustic Guitars-Bass Guitars

    3. Cort X-1

    4. Cort G110

    4.And finally, Yamaha 012

    I am thinking about Bullet strat, but I dont know its tone quality. I think Dean and Cort are more suited to hard rock. Personally, Cort X-1 looks pretty cool to me. But outta all of these, I feel Dean has the most to offer.

    Whats ur idea?
     
  4. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    The Yam has single coil as well as humbucks.
    Squier has only single coils.
    Dean has only humbuckers, same as Cort X1
    Cort G110 gas single + humbucker.

    IMO - you would definitely require single coils for some of your artists - Hendrix, Led Zep, Bon Jovi, Bryan adams etc
    And Humbuckers too for Guns n Roses, ac/dc, metallica etc.


    Cort G110 vs Yam 012
     
  5. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    Only thing, I know that I can get all those around except Cort G110. I am not sure whether it'll be available in my local market.
    In case I dont find it,is yamaha my best bet then?

    Also, yam012 is the lowest end guitar of Yamaha, as opposed to Dean VN XMT.
    Dunno why, but I find myself swaying towards the Dean one.
     
  6. guitarplayer729

    guitarplayer729 New Member

    try everything and then decide
     
  7. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    Thats what I wud do anyway. Just getting a headsup 4rm u guys. :)

    BTW, saw ur metal riff on youtube. Amazng stuff. Ur guitar was pretty nice too. That was a cort, wasnt it?? How much did u get that for?
     
  8. guitarplayer729

    guitarplayer729 New Member

    got that for 15k
     
  9. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    IMO the bridge position should have an option of humbucker - for more powerful sound (with distortion) or mellow/phat sound (on clean).
    And also an option of single coil to give a jingly-jangly tone (like telecasters).
    Sadly. most guitars don't come with this option.

    Second, the middle pickup on its own may not hold much water compared to bridge or neck, but it sound way different when combined with neck or bridge. This can happen only on stratocaster based designs.

    The neck pickup. Frankly, I find humbucker on the neck pickup too mushy and mellow. Perhaps good for "Santana"ish solos. But for all the other purposes (clean or overdrive or distortion) single coil on bridge sounds much better. And if its too bright for your taste then use the tone controls.


    So what is this coming out as?
    A FAT Strat design => HSS
     
  10. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    but a fat strat is like 13.5 k! thats almost my whole budget including amp.
     
  11. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    Ok, to hell with precision. Just tell me will a bullet strat sound nice even with metal riffs, despite the absence of humbucker? Just give me a comparative view w.r.t. Yamaha.
     
  12. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    If you use a processor and increase the gain, and reduce the treble / increase mids everywhere.
    Then no one will be able to make out whether its a single coil or a humbucker.
     
  13. guitarplayer729

    guitarplayer729 New Member

    i think he should go with a pacifica
    because u can produce the sound of a humbucker from a single coil
    but there would not that hum reduction which a humbucker has
    and there would be loads of noise


    by the way
    i think bullet strat is a fat strat
    it has hss configuration
     
  14. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    Squiers don't come with humbuckers.
     
  15. mymusicmyguitar

    mymusicmyguitar New Member

    The moment u increase the gain on a single coil...U will get the heavenly HUM sound from the single coil :p ......

    Humbuckers rule in this case..
     
  16. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    yeah, thats what I thought. Humbuckers are built for that kinda output.
     
  17. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    And thats why I recommend the Fat strat design.
    HSS.

    With a five way switch you should have:
    1. Neck
    2. Neck and middle combo
    3. Middle and bridge single combo
    4. Bridge single
    5. Bridge Humbucker


    Pacifica is a fat strat HSS design. Though, I am sure the switching will not be the same as what I wrote above.
     
  18. volcano619

    volcano619 New Member

    u and i are on the same page buddy :)
    welcome to my boat !!
    Please do inform if you make a decision on which guitar to go !!
     
  19. amithkallupalam

    amithkallupalam New Member

    I own a pacifica 012. Best guitar for 10k. Its really great. Well, considering the price. I love my pacifica and vypyr 15 combo. Agathis is generally easy to dent, light and it also has a LOOOOT of mids. So even if you scoop the mids, you'll have a lot of them! The guitar feels and plays good. Neck isnt too thick. I don't use the tremolo, but the guitar doesnt go out of tune all that much. And it also has a humbucker in the bridge for rock metal and what not. Forget about the squire. IT SUCKS ASS. Ive played one, doesnt feel good at all. My pacifica plays like a dream compared to a squire. Don't get a squire. Pacifica 012 for sure!
     
  20. Guitarnewb101

    Guitarnewb101 New Member

    ok, here are my conclusions-

    1. Squier comes with a HSS configuration in one of it's bullet strats, which sounds gr8! (just saw on youtube)

    2. Yamaha pacifica 012 are simlilar to the squier HSS.

    So I think I will definitely look out for these two. :)
    Thx
     

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