Instead of giving someone a handjob, teach him how to masturbate. hmmm, that didnt quite work out as planned.
Which is quite all right since I enjoy reading your opinions (something that most other people on the forum do not seem to understand is you can disagree with each other yet like their opinions). Which is precisely why I said I do not support reservations when it comes to employment and never will. I love you to pieces for saying this. I said the same thing not so long ago about physical handicaps. Agreed...but like I said before, time is not always a non-issue. If it is, I'm right with you. dude, I wasn't talking about cities here. I was talking about the sort of places I've described a few posts ago. These places still exist and as long as our attitude towards basic secondary education is as lax as it is, I can't see the situation improving. It is because of demand that the situation is starting to improve in cities across the country....in rural districts, the demand is low and hence privatization of education becomes difficult which is where the government needs to provide. This could easily lead us to ponder whether starting off as a socialist state was the biggest mistake we could have made post-indepence...but let's not get into that(yet) The only problem I see with your solutions is that they seem slightly utopic to me....the things you mentioned are government responsibilities and in a perfect world, they'd have been fulfilled by our government. Privatization would(probably...I am speculating here so I could be horribly wrong) be difficult since opening schools in cities would be more luring because of larger demand...but then again, rural India is a vast, untapped resource too. But don't you think a lot of these "backward" people are doing well because they're riding on the back of reservations? Also, wouldn't you essentially have been doing what I proposed to....i.e.- have reservations for a time period and then remove them? You probably would have as much difficulty removing these reservations now as you would 10 years from now? I agree with you that this is actually terribly difficult to do...tending to impossible. Now that we've sorta had it over what would be the best solution (and we pretty much agree that No reservation and better education at lower levels would be a good solution), let's try and take a realistic look at our case. We know it's not going to be possible to actually remove these reservations which have come in. It'll be political suicide. So what do you propose is the best policy you can adopt to curb the damage done by the sc/st brigade. I stand by what I said...Restricting reservations to education is, in my opinion, a realistic target. Weeding off after a while would have been my solution but like kaiser says, its not going to be easy.
exceptional boredom?? I didnt know they came in classifications. I mean hell just plain ol' boredom does me in :Worried:
Umm, lets say you wake up at six (morning), and you go/come online. Stay online. Then sleep. Browse, eat, sleep. :RollLol:
^ Ah. I wake up at around 0615 :grin: But dont have time in morning to come online :cry1:. (its other thing that my yahoo and msn messenger are always logged in)
thats exactly what i said, that u could argue that they've been doing good because of the reservations. but then, if they're doing good already why not start laying off reservation rules NOW instead of ten yrs later? Lets face the bad shit now itself. i say, don't postpone a good move. and i equate this move with the first step in obviating classification of people, in abolishing casteism. my issue first is with casteism, then with upliftment of backwards. reservation worsens the first problem. and thats a bigger problem than just economic backwardness... if you're not for reservations in jobs, but then why even in education in the first place? education and work are related, and its injustice anyway. The IIM student cant stand to sit on the same bench as the guy who didnt have to work as hard as he did. even you wouldn't like it...whether its work or a course, it the same circus. i really liked what the guitarist friend of yours said about your letting him find the plectrum himself. now dont u have respect for him? dont you respect him more than you would other blind people? picking the pick up for him is like reserving a seat. and hey jaipur wasnt much a of city 5 yrs back. the soul was majorly rural and backward. now its tranformed, and the process is still on. i find it amazing. the boom we witnessed in the recent times was pan-india, and more importantly, a thorough one, impacting even rural areas. when i mentioned jaipur, i was thinking of all the towns that make up jaipur, i should have mentioned that earlier....most of the schools that have opened up ARE in fact in the rural areas and are doing well. as you said, the rural belt is a promising sector. all the new insurance companies are concentrating on selling insurance to rural people....and its no secret that automobile (esp 2 wheeler) and FMCG's depend in a big big way on the rural sector...why would speculations of poor rain make the stock market go down then?? hell, im digressing....but i hope you get what im saying. here's what i think should be done: scrap reservations (very difficult, i know, but possible. if only our govt was more aggresive than passive and pacifistic...), and beat the caste system. And becoming a full blown capitalist state (which im sure we'll be very soon) is the only way we can cut down poverty.
ooooh lord, man!! To read this stuff 8 in the morning is complete torture...i only got past the "thats exactly what i said.." thats extreme stupidity..why the hell wudya do something like that???? :insane:
that's where our arguments start to diverge. I was putting upliftment of backward classes ahead of squashing casteism. I suppose your way of looking at it is quite different. The difference between this case and what my friend told me is that I'm not looking at the caste issue from a rather detached view. Perhaps all the differences in opinion we have might be stemming from the fact that one is living (or hails from) a state that is progressing and the other from a state that is regressing? I don't know but I suppose we can agree to disagree on some issues
@bjr: Lol.....so our little debate's off eh? btw, i dont think any part of india can regress. all it can do is go up. and its high time that it did!
hah, yeah. Now I'm just starting to repeat myself and so are you. As for any part of India regressing, I think you can safely put Bengal in the regression zone.
No, It's quite all right really. You can't take an argument too far. It's just that I'm in no mood really to have one. If you look at my earlier post for Ankur_Scorpio where I try to discuss problems with the educational infrastructure and why I support reservations, you'll find that most of my argument dissing the infrastructure is perhaps the biggest reason I would give for the regression of Bengal.
I'm probably going to split first chance I get...I'm not sure though since I have this awful habit of getting into ruts and enjoying them.
