What is Marxism and How does it affect India ?

^^^^Exactly! That's the point I was trying to say/.....

 

i watched a documentary on communism .. there is no doubt that it is too idealistic to be successful in a real world .. all the classless society theory it gives isnt really possible .. apart frm that too it has many problems .. the documentary showed how the communists like stalin,lenin,mao etc just brought abt the downfall and destruction of their societies .. all the bloodshed and the famines being examples .. watch the documentary if possible ..
the political parties just follow it for the sake of following it .. even they might know it isnt gonna work .

 

@sugata: you're terribly confused.

 

You can’t expect all people to be equal, that is a flawed theory. A concept, which is quite easy to sell to the poor uneducated rural people living in complete lack of basic necessities, being ignored by the government for decades and who have never witnessed progress or development in their lifetime.

 

The lower castes are the poorer people, we all know that. So if I called them lower caste, you wouldnt support it, but if I called them poorer people you would. LOL

 

ReallY!! Huh!

I want to say one thing to you kaiser....Please do not be personal......I don't want to fight with anybody in this beautiful thread.....Your opinion may be diff, but learn to be a listener too!
Ofcourse, this is just a suggestion..

 

Not nessessoryly, I have seen so many so called ST SC OBC who have so much money that they do not have to take any oppertunity of being so..
The sad part of the story is that, most of them actually take that, and those who really need it do not get the chance because they do not have the Financial and the social power.

 

I was not talking about exceptions.

 

But I was.... BCOZ THE Number is very alarming...

 

@sugata: ok
@sugata: i wont be personal
@sugata: but honestly, no hard feelings
@sugata: i think your reasoning
@sugata: in this thread
@sugata: is twisted
@sugata: bye

*leaves thread*

 

lets see..... marxism is anti erudition, anti education, anti arts, music and literature (in case you didnt know Mao used to send phd students to milk cown, Pol Pot used to kill all people who were into literature and arts, and the Bolsheviks bombed an Opera House), anti religion and culture (china's cultural revolution and eastern europes atheism comes to mind)... marxism is pro labour class and also pro labourclass CULTURE, it assumes that a laloo prased and an amarthya sen are equal (!!!) in every way.

marxism has never done any country any good economically. look at west and east germany or south and north korea. both sets of countries started from scratch after the second world war, but where as south korea and west germany became economically prosperous, east germany and north koreans have taken to eating grass.


so why be marxist?? why study software courses?? why not go and plough a field using one of laloo prasad's cows?? or maybe milk one?? and dont forget to shoot some musician, painter, thespian or writer. and declare yourself religionless.


or wake up.

 

Sugata you want to bring a renaissance??? and for that you support marxism?

Now i fail to understand whats the need for renaissance??? esp. in India??? a revolution without cause is it ??? See, things are moving along good, barring things like the stupid reservation crap that out filthy politicians are bringing in to get votes.. I think the only revolution we need is against our "Netas" and their false pretext of Marxism they operate to ensure visbility and a platform to while away their idle time.

And free competition (read capitalism) is the only way, for the rich or poor, general class or SC/ST's!

 

a lot of ballls!!!


no marxism existed when the renaissance took place in europe (in general and italy in particular). and closer home, no marxism existed when the bengal renaissance took place. the stalwarts of neither were marxist, or communist or leftist in the least. if anything most were from very aristrocratic "zamin-daar" families. so there goes your lobotomised theory about how marxism, of all things, brings about renaissance.

the only thing that marxism does, is kill renasaiance and the new cultural ethos that comes with it, and blanket it all in a crass stupidass labour class mentality.

 

y not to belive in socialism rather communalism. Richer poorer equality = F word >> no one would work coz money wont be a problem with this theory.
poor call them modern robinhoods n loot, kill richer.

I know it's tuff for a born poor to earn compaired to born rich, tho nvr impossible. it's big thing to explain.. bottom line >> strive hard to achive ur dreams n dont kill, loot others. evry one has equal oppurtunities on this earth, so grab it otherwise create it.

Stupid post

 

I agree.

read "animal farm" / george orwell @ sugata.

 

@jamhead
Nothing to say really..... Please check your own post again...
@Rahulp
Yes, renaissance is needed, not only in India, but all over the world. renaissance is needed to protect normal human being against Capitalism. Or, more Iraqs and Afganistans are coming I can assure you. You are saying India is MOVING ALONG NICELY. You will not say it after 20 years from now on if the renaissance does not happen. Do you know why America attacked Afganistan and Iraq (Now Seria is next...that makes sense)??? Because of their oil mines. Can you imagine what will happen to India then???


Why are you people again and again saying the word "reservation" ??? Don't think like that. Think like "Give everyone a fair chance"......

I will not continue this discussion anymore, but, you people will understand the value of my words after 10-20 years. Before that, wish you happy living.....

 

OH! Forgot to mention, I hate so called "Politics"

 

Thanx Iraqita for starting this thread.....I was also wondering what the fuss is all about....how the hell can they still manage to win elections in WB?!!

Thru the course of this thread many of my doubts were answered...thanx jamhead.

@sugata...ur from Kolkata....that explains it all...Ironically...ur signature says "BORN TO RULE"....!!

 

@jamhead
Nothing to say really..... Please check your own post again...

I DID. IT HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.


@Rahulp
Yes, renaissance is needed, not only in India, but all over the world.

INDIA HAS A VIBRANT CULTURE AND RELIGION AND ARTS AND MUSIC AS IT IS.


renaissance is needed to protect normal human being against Capitalism.

CAPITALISTS ARE NOT NORMAL??

Or, more Iraqs and Afganistans are coming I can assure you.

IF MORE 9/11'S COME, MORE AFGHANISTANS WILL COME.


You are saying India is MOVING ALONG NICELY.


YES INDIA IS, AT LEAST SINCE P V NARSHIMA RAO'S TENURE.


You will not say it after 20 years from now on if the renaissance does not happen.

THE ONLY RENAISSANCE INDIA NEEDS IS A ECONOMIC RENAISSANCE WHERE WE PRODUCE 100S OF DHIRUBHAI AMBANIS.


Do you know why America attacked Afganistan and Iraq (Now Seria is next...that makes sense)??? Because of their oil mines.

NOPE. AFGHANISTAN DOES NOT HAVE ANY OIL MINE FOR YOUR INFO. THEY DO HAVE A JEHADI MINE. USA ATTACKED IRAQ FOR ... WELL THATS A TOPIC FOR ANOTHER THREAD.



Can you imagine what will happen to India then???

YES. IN 20 YEARS INDIA'S ECONOMY WILL BE THE SIZE OF TODAY'S CHINA'S ECONOMY, IN 50 YEARS IT WILL BE AS BIG AS USA'S.


Why are you people again and again saying the word "reservation" ??? Don't think like that. Think like "Give everyone a fair chance"......

FAIR CHANCE IS OK. REVERVATIONS IN IITS AND IIM'S WONT GET THEM THE FAIR CHANCE THOUGH.


I will not continue this discussion anymore,

WHICH IS A BIG RELIEF.


but, you people will understand the value of my words after 10-20 years.

YES. WE WILL. 20 YEARS ON, YOU WILL BE THE LAST MARXIST REMAINING, STILL SEARCHING FOR THE ELUSIVE "RENAISSANCE"!!!


Before that, wish you happy living.....

AND I WISH YOU A HAPPY MARXIST STYLE LIVING, IN THE PADDY FIELDS, WITH LALOO PRASAD'S COWS AND MAZDOOR-BHAI'S FOR COMPANY.

 

@light_of_enrindi...Yepp! I am from Kolkata-A much better place to live....

Bye all and continue ur discussion

EDITED:- BYE JAMHEAD!!!