Searching in the dark

Discussion in 'Poetry and Lyrics Forum' started by horsesmouth, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    I wasn't intending to post this, but since there's been so less activity these days,
    here's a song me and my friend have worked on.
    Doesn't have an overall coherent theme, the first half was written by me, meaning to find someone, or someplace in someone. And the other half, by my friend, kinda assumes I'm not gonna find it and hopes for some other time.
    Now I dunno if the song would appeal to anyone in any way, but it has some good rock-ish style to it, and I like the tune very much. Simple and effective. I'll post the mp3 once its done.

    Searching in the dark

    *
    Sometimes I look up to the skies
    to find your place in the stars.
    There is a place where we will meet,
    but I've been searching in the dark.
    *
    I'll find you where my heart lies,
    in the fathoms where they are.
    The faces in the deep, they lie to me,
    'cause I've been searching in the dark.
    *
    Sometimes I look into your eyes
    to see what's left of you in me.
    And all the times you make me think of you,
    I just wish you set me free.
    *
    Another world and other time,
    ...I just wish that you'd be mine.
    And the pain that beholds my sight,
    its just pushing me aside.


    I'll find you where my heart lies,
    ...no matter where I go.
    The faces in the deep, they lie to me,
    they were forgotten long ago.


    The faces in the deep, they lie to me,
    'cause I've been searching in the dark.
    The faces in the deep, chaotic and bizzare,
    I've been searching in the dark.
    *
     
  2. what makes u think it has no coherent theme..??
     
  3. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    ahh...not entirely, but to some extent. Both parts are in the same context.. But then its been written by two people and hence my thinking might be biased...
     
  4. wylder

    wylder New Member

    Nice read... The fact that it leaves room for the reader to interpret the meaning is really cool.

    "And the pain that beholds my sight"
    The use of the word 'beholds' seems a bit odd... Doesn't behold mean see/observe?
    Maybe 'the pain I behold in my sight'?
     
  5. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    right.. even I was wondering what's wrong in that line. Will have to change...yours is good for poety, but not very rhythmic for a song..
     
  6. metalhead_junky

    metalhead_junky New Member

    thats awesum stuff !
    i love rock but i can't see how this song fits in that genre...
    are you just talking about the tune/scale ?
     
  7. wylder

    wylder New Member

    If Kurt Cobain's lyrics can fit rock... If RHCP lyrics can fit rock... Why can't this? :)
     
  8. metalhead_junky

    metalhead_junky New Member

    I dunno, I thought this would suit more in blues, or maybe you're right !
     
  9. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    Ah, I dunno, maybe the tune, because I seriously don't know about lyrics fitting into different genres, that way the genres should be called romantic, gloomy, sad, happy, etc etc.. This would be gloomy.
     
  10. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    Haha, I later realised my definition of rock still relies on sounds of different bands, and guitar effects.
    This might not be as 'rock'ish as I said... Well I'm poor at it anyway, you could figure it out once I post the song.
     
  11. wylder

    wylder New Member

    Exactly what I meant... Some of the most popular 'Rock' songs have gibberish lyrics.

    I'd say the genre is determined by the end product - the music and not any single individual part of it. If done properly, you could convey a love song in Rock, Jazz or Polka.
     
  12. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    Yes, to add to this, I'd say I hate the technalities that come with advanced music, especially rock. Pentatonic, dorian, ionian, and so on... I bet you can produce any music you feel by creativity and ear, though less theory makes it slower. But to contradict you in your first statement, some rock 'anthems' do have subtle meanings...some social, some personal. A few like 'smells like teen spirit' didn't make sense to me.
     
  13. wylder

    wylder New Member

    Difference of opinion there... Music is an art with some amount of science behind it.

    Just like scientists can make great discoveries out of serendipity, you can write great songs with zero knowledge of music. But it helps to know some theory behind if you want to learn advanced/progressive music.

    Again what one calls 'advanced' is purely subjective.
    Just like calculus might seem advanced to a medical professional but not necessarily so to a theoretical physics professor, the terms your stated (like Pentatonics or Modal Theory) may be fairly basic to a music student. Similarly, for a rapper (=NOT musician :)) any scale or timing meter or 80's pop rock might seem fairly advanced.
     
  14. nandy0894

    nandy0894 New Member

    why do you say..rapper is not a musician?
     
  15. wylder

    wylder New Member

    I 'studied' Physics, Chemistry and Biology in high school and was pretty good at it too. Yet they don't call me a scientist...

    Yes, they write lyrics. They can be good poets. They make music. But musician? Nah...
     
  16. nandy0894

    nandy0894 New Member

    musician - 1. a person who makes music a profession, especially as a performer of music.
    - 2. any person, whether professional or not, skilled in music.

    plus RAP= rhythm associated poetry..and for creating a rhythm, most rappers use quality music..
     
  17. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    ^ I second wylder. Rappers (I exclude eminem and fort minor, for some reason I like some of their songs.) are not musicians. It just doesn't cut to add a 'baby' or 'yo' on every line to make a song. It just makes a bieber or a snoop dogg. Plus I don't like their expletives. As far as theory is concerned I'm familiarising myself slowly and, needless to say, I've improved my playing abilities, but I'd give equal credit to practise, and passion for music. So theory makes 33 % of music. No reason to join a class ;)
     
  18. wylder

    wylder New Member

    scientist (ˈsaɪəntɪst) : a person who studies or practises any of the sciences or who uses scientific methods

    I concede that you are technically right.

    But then that would make me a musician, actor, painter, poet, teacher, driver, engineer and a host of other vocations. I guess at some point you have to value the skill level to call someone a specialist in an art form...
     
  19. horsesmouth

    horsesmouth Active Member

    The last time I was in spain, 60% of the songs they played were hiphop. Others, spanish, and english pop. No place for rock. That accounts for 3 days. And I started to believe music is slowly dying...
     
  20. wylder

    wylder New Member

    Theory and practice go hand in hand...

    You would find that <W = mg> (which translates 'to a bigger guy is a heavier guy') would be hard to grasp if you were brought up in space in the absence of gravity.
    Conversely, we find it unbelievable that someone travelling at close to speed of light will age very slowly compared to a person at rest (time dilation due to Special Theory of Relativity).

    Music theory does not have to be what you are taught at a music school. If you jam to a rock song for a while, you will notice that 5 notes fit very easily into the common rock chord progressions. The technical name for that 5 note scale is a Pentatonic Minor. Whether you know the name or not, its still part of theory.
     

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