pinch?

Discussion in 'Beginner's Q&A Forum' started by metal=heaven, Jan 9, 2006.

  1. metal=heaven

    metal=heaven New Member

    guyz wot does "pinching" mean?(in guitar terms obviously)
     
  2. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    I think you're referring to pinch harmonics.
    You know how to play open string harmonics, right? The ones on 5, 7, 12 etc?
    If you want to get the same interval relationships on fretted notes, you can get them with pinch harmonics.
    What you do is this....fret the 12th fret and pick the area above the 24th fret so that first your thumb hits the string and then the pick..you'll hear a high-pitched note playing the same pitch as of the 24th note. Try the same things on 17th for the 5th harmonic and 19th for the 7th harmonic. This works for other harmonics as well (you can here it in Cemetary Gates, for example).
    This is easier to achieve on higher gain and distorted settings then it is on clean.
     
  3. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    Yeah mee too thinks he is referring to pinch harmonics.

    From physics point of view. Pinch harmonics allow u to establish a standing wave on the string (which is what u hear) with the node being almost anywehre on the neck.

    The point where thumb strikes the string is where the node exist. The plectrum vibrates the string. and lo! u get a standing wave which has squeal like quality.

    Abhijit has covered it so no point in me blabbering the same ol' stuff.
    as an addition: u can play pinch harmonic anywhere on the neck. ANYWHERE. just that u require high gain + bridge pickup + high mids
     
  4. metal=heaven

    metal=heaven New Member

    thnx guyz..:)
    and cn u plz also explain open string harmonics..
     
  5. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    Umm...
    Ok just touch your finger to the 12th fret...dont press down on the fret, just touch the string. You'll hear a sound that is like the sound of the 12th fret. Now do the same on the 7th, 5th, 4th, 3rd,9th, 2.7 th (no really:)) frets and you'll hear various notes. Those are open string harmonics. You can play whole songs like this if you know which note is present where (eg. Victor Wooten's version of Amazing Grace).
     
  6. UjSen

    UjSen *#!EVIL*!!

    it'll sound like tiny bells
    clear sund>
    by yhe way my guitar has only 22 frets soo wat do i do??
     
  7. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    For what?
    Playing notes higher than that or for playing harmonics? If the former, bend:)
    If the latter, play over the place the 24th fret would normally be..you'll figure it out with trial and error
     
  8. aysh

    aysh -|h3 ori9in4| (ui!aris-|-

    hey guys i got a problem in getting a squeal from the top 3 strings .. it just doesnt come off .. or wen it does its too weak .. the lower strings i can pull off easily .. any particular thing that im missing or is it just more practice ?
    and yes i think i first hit the string with pick then with thumb .. not the other way round as u said abhijit ..
     
  9. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    Oops..you're right about the pick first then thumb thing..thats what I do too..wrote it the other way around. Sorry.
    The thing is that the harmonics are usually too high to be properly audible on the top 3 strings...thats why theyre more difficlut to get.
    Mattias Eklundh has some lessons about how to get those harmonics on the top 3 strings I think. Most of them involve doing whammy dives, hitting harmonic and coming back up.
     
  10. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    d00d where u hit the string also matters a lot to teh frequency of the squeal as well as the volume of the squeal.
    Try changing the location where u are trying to generate pinch harmonics.
     
  11. aysh

    aysh -|h3 ori9in4| (ui!aris-|-

    hehe .. yeah man u left me wondering how to hit thumb first and then the pick
    ive seen videos where these ppl just produce it wth ease .. so was kind of wondering .. whammy i havent got so will try out other things ..
     
  12. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    What gear do you have? if you're using a Zoom of some sort into a Stranger amp, you won't hear it for sure! Those guys have great amps and excellent cabs to get that sound.
     
  13. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    I dont think Whammy is really required to really sustain the pinch harmonic.
    Though I admit doing vibrato on pinch harmonic just like Zakk Wylde.
     
  14. abhijitnath

    abhijitnath Fighting GAS frantically

    It's not required for sustaining the harmonic.
    Its required to create it in the first place. See typically the instrument does not pick up the highest harmonics. If you try to play even an open string harmonic on the 2.7th fret on your B string, its bloody tough. If you divebomb and do the same, the pickups can sense that pitch and then you can pull up on the bar. listen to any Mattias Eklundh song. I saw him when he came down with Hellborg this time and talked to him about the technique and he said the same thing.
     
  15. aysh

    aysh -|h3 ori9in4| (ui!aris-|-

    i use rp200a with stranger ns30 ..
    besides
    @alpha i just noticed i weas picking nearer to the neck pickup .. i'll attempt them above the bridge pickup ..
    @abhi .. 2.7th fret .. u mean betwn 2nd and 3rd ?
     
  16. Alfons

    Alfons C.F.H

    http://youtube.com/w/Dimebag-guitar-lesson-squel?v=wASLu7-VFlY&search=Dimebag

    check that out for more details on PH's . but that lesson explains a more advanced version of PH's. And yeah you dont need a Whammy to get it at grassroots level.

    DIMEBAG !! :nw: :nw:

    After I tweaked the height of the pickups on my Givson it sounds awsome for metal , gets real classy Pinch Harmonics.
    Try increasing the height og your pickups ( bring it towards the string ) , well at least do it to your humbucker . Increasing the height produced more Output hence better Harmonics
     
  17. slash_i_m

    slash_i_m Laid to Rest

    yup thatz rite did it to my squire too.
     
  18. Nanda

    Nanda Bassist

    Most important of all u need goos pickups to get the pinch right ... So dont try to get it with some givson guitar and finally decide u cant .. Get a good pick up it works wonders with harmonics ...
     
  19. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    I get "good" harmonics with my givson.
     
  20. Alfons

    Alfons C.F.H

    I get amazing Pinch Harmonics on my Givson. Dont know why Givsons are so under-rated , tweak it here and there with a screwdriver and you'll get an amazing guitar .
     

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