Need help in Chords..

Discussion in 'Beginner's Q&A Forum' started by selvapunithan, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. selvapunithan

    selvapunithan New Member

    Hi friends,
    i'm a beginner.. help me with this chords.. im confused.. wat is the difference between G#m and Gm.. pls explain about such chords in guitar.. i'm not getting enough clarification in other forums and Google.. help me guys..
     
  2. Sumanovo razor

    Sumanovo razor New Member

    okay let me help you... For this you must know the notes and they are

    A--A#/Bb--B--C--C#/Db--D--D#/Eb--E--F--F#/Gb--G--G#/Ab--A1

    # denotes sharp
    b denotes flat
    and they rest of them are natural notes

    note-remember B and E doesnt have sharp and C and F doesnt have flats ...

    A1 represents octave
    like in indian music the lower sa and the upper sa

    play a note then the very next note on the higher fret will be its sharp note and the previous note down
    a fret will be its flat note

    frets are the nickel plated long markers placed on your guitars fingerboard(fingerboard is the one on which you move your fingers in order to play a note or a chord)

    so what you are asking is Gm and G#m that is nothin but G minor and G sharp minor chord(playing more than one note is known as a chord)

    well here are the tabs for Gm and G#m

    Gm(355333)
    G#m(466444)

    place your index finger on the 3rd fret and press all the strings and with your ring finger press the 5th string 5th fret (consider the thinnest string as string 1 and the thickest string as string 6)and with the pinky press the 4th string 5th fret ...this is nothing but G minor chord

    place your index finger on the 4th fret and press all the strings and with your ring finger press the 5th string 6th fret (consider the thinnest string as string 1 and the thickest string as string 6)and with the pinky press the 5th string 6th fret ...this is nothing but G sharp minor chord

    note:-while playing you just shifted all your fingers higher by a single fret why???
    Check the notes

    G--G#/Ab--A and so on
    you may call G sharp minor chord also as Ab minor chord .Both mean the same thing
     
  3. selvapunithan

    selvapunithan New Member

    Thanks Sumanovo!!

    Your Reply helped a lot!! Thank you so much.. Just one thing.. you mentioned G#minor and Ab minor are same.. if so, G# and Ab are same..?
     
  4. selvapunithan

    selvapunithan New Member

    In tat case(G#minor and Ab minor are same).. what will be the scenario in keys which have no flats(C and F)..? Sry for continuous Questions. . as a beginner i want learn it clearly.. pls..
     
  5. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    G# and Ab are the same.
    It has got nothing to do with KEYS or SCALES or MODES.

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    Similarly, C# and Db are the same.

    D# and Eb are the same.

    F# and Gb are the same.

    A# and Bb are the same.


    SAME means for the same note there are two names.




    So for example, your name is Selva, but ppl also call you Pappu at school.
    Selva and Pappu are just two names, but the person remains same.
     
  6. Sumanovo razor

    Sumanovo razor New Member

    the keys which do not have # and b are known as natural notes....in that case A will be A ..B will be B...C will be C ...D will be D...E will be E...F will be F...G will be G...
     
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    mayur_7393 New Member

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  8. hemant_spidey3

    hemant_spidey3 New Member

    Actually, C# and Db are not same. when you are playing C and you move half step or one fretboard downward you'll get C#, It means you are raising the tone of the chord by half step but when you say Db, you are lowering the pitch of D node or chord. Though they sound same but they are not same thing.

     
  9. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    What you say makes sense with archaic note/scale based tempering.
    But with equal tempering, there remains no difference.
    Both are SAME FREQUENCIES.
     
  10. Sumanovo razor

    Sumanovo razor New Member

    u sure buddy???it must be "B"
     
  11. hemant_spidey3

    hemant_spidey3 New Member

    I'm damn sure buddy, but the real thing is that, it matter only on music sheet. when you actually play it on guitar it is as same as the other. notation are usually made for the ease of use, say if you're playing A chord and you wanted to move to A#, you won't say A#, you say play Bb. never use same symbol for the consequent chord. thats how theory is : - )
     
  12. Sumanovo razor

    Sumanovo razor New Member

    moving half step 'downward' from C note will be B and not Db ...check the quoted statement of yours again... ;)...what you said is theoretically correct...infact its a rule of writing the scales...that we have to use all the notes and we can use sharps or flats but cant mix both of them...so if we follow both the rules then theoretically F# major scale is not possible but Gb is possible...and please dont say notations are easy.god knows when i'll be able to do sight reading...
     
  13. hemant_spidey3

    hemant_spidey3 New Member

    I don't why do you thing F# scale is not possible. here is F# scale if you wanted
    F# G# A# B C# D# E# F(I hope you know how to form scale)
    and second thing when i said moving downward I mean moving toward bridge, sorry for that if I create confusion. last but not least you find it difficult coz u don't use musical notation, for a western player (classical guitar ) it is like eating cake. Also I think this thread become more of a debate than a solution, as I've mentioned so many times, it differs only in theory not with the sound on guitar. How much hard it is to imbibe it for you man.
     
  14. Sumanovo razor

    Sumanovo razor New Member

    in your case it is possible because you are using E#...which is nothing but F... Well reading the notation of mary had a little lamb would be easier than reading take five by dave brubeck...anyways peace... :)
     
  15. lead.suman

    lead.suman New Member

    G#m is one scale higher chord tham Gm....
     

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