Lets form a band

Discussion in 'The ChitChat Lounge' started by bibs, Nov 30, 2003.

  1. bibs

    bibs New Member

    hey guys I am from new delhi. Just trying to form
    a HINDI-POP band of my own. myself a lead singer/ lyricist/ composure.
    any guys from delhi out there ??? who can play guitar, keyboard
    and drums ....just contact me. I am really really serious. my email id- bibs_10@rediffmail.com. Fresh and new guys (ametures) with a ambition to do something creative in life should only contact..
  2. esgallindeion

    esgallindeion Minstrel Knight

    Sorry... i'm a guitarist from delhi but i'm already in two bands.
  3. alli

    alli The Best Ever


    i know ppl. who r in a band and who arent ... but i guess they're out when it comes to a "hindi-POP" band .

  4. prash_rocks

    prash_rocks Over the Hills & Far Away

    Strange, isn't it that we'd be out of any 'hindi-POP' band even though we post regularly on the INDIANguitartabs! But that's very true... For that matter, I'd be out of ANY 'pop' band, Hindi or English - pop, imo, just ain't the right thing and it's become way too monotonous everywhere.

    Moreover, somehow I can't even imagine a decent hindi-rock song. I suppose there's something in the language too rigid to be moulded to the rock pattern... Maybe, the strictures on the inevitable rhyme imposed on all hindi songs or the impossibility of twisting/abridging the words to suit the rhythm... Oh, too difficult!

    The oldies, however, are of course another matter. But the majority of them, even the pop songs like those of R D B, had classical roots...
  5. Redalert

    Redalert New Member

    I agree, even though I luv IGT. I don't think I would ever want to be in a "Pop-Band". As far as the Indian Rock scene goes, well I think its the Indian mentality that has suppressed Rock in India. Indians think, the only ppl who can Rock are the foreigners. Rock isn't encouraged in India at all.

    Indians prefer talentless "Dance Music" which even a kid could make on his computer. I mean take those V Band Asama or the previous ones, all they do is "sing" professional make the music, write the lyrics, choreograph the song. Is being able to sing a big deal? I don't think so, in this day and age your voice can be made to sound smooth and melodies....even if it originally sounds like a crow croaking, by just a click of a button.

    Its very interesting in a country vast as ours with a population of a billion, only one genre of music is preferred. Leaving aside Lucky Ali, Rheman, Shaan, Euphoria all the rest is bull crap.
  6. bibs

    bibs New Member

    its not that bad about hindi pop. Indian culture and music
    has got a very rich legacy and dates back to very ancient times.
    Our country is so vast and there are so many regional languages and dialects and each one has got their own distinct music. You will never find this in any other country or culture in the whole world.
    moreover about adopting western music, I don,t think there is any need for it. Whatever rock/pop/fusion is going on , it is only we are doing that. Have you seen or heard of any westener ever trying to adopt (fusion) indian music ????? So why should we ???? This we should think of.... There is much more in the indian music than aping others ( that acually doesn't suit humans ).
  7. alli

    alli The Best Ever

    ok ok ... u've got this waaaaaay too wrong ...

    YES... india has an amazing rich legacy of music ... and culture..it rocks ! but i dont think a "hindi-pop" band would particularly cover any of that... and even if u beg to differ .. i seriously doubt u can pull off an original coz there a few really nice bands already making such music.
    no1 out here said india does not have amazing diversity in culture et music... it justs that hindi pop bands get soo commercialised ..they lose touch of what they started out planning to do...
    and now we're living in a world where u survive if ur as global as u can get..how long could u sit in india making only indian music coz u think u dont need to globalise andexpand ur horizon ? and YES ... "foreigners" DO listen to a LOT of indian fusion music.... even if they didnt ... ur planning to do tit-for-tat... and keep urself illeterate just becoz ppl. dont listen to ur music.
  8. prash_rocks

    prash_rocks Over the Hills & Far Away

    No Bibs, you actually got it wrong. True we're Indians first and foremost and with whatever knowledge of music we have, we accord the righteous and glorious position India and its culture and music occupy... Just that we look to the west too to also learn from them and constantly enrich our own music. Nothing wrong with that. No aping involved, except if you mean learning is synonymous with aping!

    You will agree many of the Indian musicians, immensely acknowledged right here, have been very famous even abroad because they could combine both these elements in a wonderful harmony. Of course the most telling case to this effect among contemporary musicians is that of Rehman.

    And actually it's not that one-sided an affair like it seems. If you listen closely to some of their music and talk to them of their inspirations, you'll find that some of the most successful/talented musicians from over the west have done the same thing... If you know of a 'heavy-rock' band of the 70s called Led Zeppelin, you'll know from their interviews and of course the music itself what diverse musical interests including Indian and Arabian they had and that shows from their masterpieces, one of which they even named "Kashmir" - a song on mysticism! Now how closer to the roots do you except a western "heavy" band to go!

    That defines genius for me so far as music is concerned - apart from the natural flair one has, the diverse varieties of music one's exposed to only makes his expression richer and powerful...
  9. preezer369

    preezer369 New Member

    i think u guys r taking this WAY to seriously...but that's ok...but u guys r rite about the US getting alittle bit into indian music (i would kno, i live here)...i mean that its not like u don't find anybody who is inspired by it...i don't think ppl are like against it...and im pretty sure that many ppl haven't even heard of hindi music...but that the same for rock with some ppl in india...and if u think that u shudn't start "indian rock" b/c americans dont care about indian music that U R WRONG...that's no reason to not form a rock band...but u may be rite about the pop bands...but personally i like some of the indian pop out there...and ofcourse indian music can be pretty cool (sometimes)...hehe...i don't think ive heard any hindi rock, would what lucky ali sings be called rock? and FYI i kno that not everyone can sing!!! believe me!!! and fusion music is pretty good to...
    well ill post stuff on this topic later...if anybody has any ques. on the US then ask me cuz i live rite herr....

  10. esgallindeion

    esgallindeion Minstrel Knight

    What are you guys arguing about?

    Bibs wants to form a "hindi pop" band. So if anyone is interested, let her know. Don't begin a war on Indian culture vs Western culture.

    Lucky Ali, rock???????? :shock:

    In any case, here's what I feel...

    There are too many bands in India... And not just hindi pop bands but also rock and heavy metal and progressive... The only fault which people have here is the same as in all other places... the blind trust to channels such as MTV and Channel V. Only those bands which get recognition in these channels become famous... I don't like pop boybands at all, but I'm sure there have to be at least a dozen more talented bands than "A Band of Brothers". And if you think Parikrama/Strings/any other famous band u've heard of , is one of the best in the country you need to think again.

    What the country desparately needs is to promote such bands and not just commercialize them.
  11. bibs

    bibs New Member

    Actually we all got it wrong from very begining. esgallindieon,
    priya,prash and alli. actually you see what A.R.Rahman is composing, the tunes are very much indian except very few. He generally uses the western instruments for the orchestrations but his tunes are mainly
    based on indian classical and folk music (this is ar rahmans own verson in an interview ). This treatment of his gives the traditional indian music a fresh and gen-next look. He is the first composure to give indian ragas a internation treatment ( roja janeman, tuhi re, chanda re chanda re..to name a few ).
    more over if just knowing english doesn't make anyone literate and globalised. If so then half of the so called developed world is illiterate b'cos they speak their mother tongue. You see whenever
    our prime minister or president or any other dignitory goes to a foreign country they speak in english only,whether official or unofficial. but you will always see that when a foreign dignitory visits any other country they speak only in their own language ( chinese, russians, italians, japaneese,french, americans ( english is their mother tongue) just to name some few .They never bother about others. This has not detterd them from being civilised, globalised
    or literate.
    Esgallindieon don't worry,it is not a war of words, its just healthy debate. You see these websites are a good place for exchanging views between like minded ppl. If you don't interact with others then how can you expand your knowledge. so don't worry boss
    and be happy.

    :p :)
  12. preezer369

    preezer369 New Member

    looks like me and bibs have almost the same views of this....seriously...lol
    and ar rahman rox!!!

  13. alli

    alli The Best Ever


    we were never talking of being civilised or being illiterate in the literal manner... i ddnt say nething bout 'ur illiterate or civilised whether or not u know english'//

    but i did say - MUSIC... u gotta explore al kinda of music... and for that if u decide to stick to just hindi music..then ur letting urself be 'illiterate" in music.. and left out ..as theres so much to know .. i dont think u can ever know all of it.

    get it ?

    and esgalli...
    ..... we were arguing NOt bout y bibs wants to make a hindi pop band .... but it all started with us telling her none of us would ever join one ...and so on it led.................
  14. esgallindeion

    esgallindeion Minstrel Knight


    As far as I am aware Chinese, French, Japanese, English and Russian (correct me if i'm wrong) are the recognised languages of the UN. Anyway, thats neither here nor there. The fact is its easy to find interpreters for those languages and hindi isn't as popularly used out of the indian subcontinent... And where did u get the info that Vajpayee only speaks in English.... i saw a UN general assembly speech by Vajpayee in Hindi...

    But by preferring english music we aren't saying we prefer english over hindi. We just don't like the current hindi pop generation (viva etc...)... but almost everyone here loves Junoon and Shaan and Strings etc... u see, its a music TYPE preference and not a language...
  15. esgallindeion

    esgallindeion Minstrel Knight

    Whatever... :p

    I was only trying to help u get what u want and not get lost in a pointless debate.
  16. esgallindeion

    esgallindeion Minstrel Knight

    GO ALLI!!! :beer:

    I was just trying to help bibs by clearing up his thread. :mad: :p
  17. preezer369

    preezer369 New Member

    lol...i kinda would have wanted to join the band...but i don't even live in india...

  18. alli

    alli The Best Ever

    hey...it was fun.... not too many ppl. pick up debatable topics here..:argue:

    mostly everyone agrees ...:beer:

    gets monotonously boring in a way....but thats good too..

    y am i being so diplomatic ?... waneways screw..cheers to debating

  19. bibs

    bibs New Member

    :cool: now we have all got it right and everyone has proved
    their own point.
    Escallindieon ,you are rightly the moderator. The amount of
    patience and restraint you have shown in handling the issue
    its really praiseworthy. it seems you want to help me, if so
    please introduce me to some fresh and amature guys who are interested in a hind-pop band ( as you are already attached to some bands
    and are in the field for quite some time.)Thank you for encouraging
    priya, I feel really unluckly that you don't stay in india. I
    would have really loved to have you in my band.(if at all it starts
    any day ). If you happen to visit India (delhi ) anyday do get in touch with me.thanks for the support.
    alli, my dear friend , your criticism has made me stronger and now I am determined to form a band. and moreover if you don't want to join its all right ( any way you can't as you stay in mumbai) but don't generalise it.
    buy friends......
  20. alli

    alli The Best Ever


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