How To Find out Chords in a Scale

Discussion in 'Guitar Tablature Discussion' started by zohaib, Jul 6, 2004.

  1. zohaib

    zohaib Shredder

    Yaar some one plz tell me
    like C-Scale have following chords :-
    C
    F
    G
    Em
    Am
    G7
    Dm


    so how we find them ??? is there any logic or tecnique ?/
     
  2. demonstealer666

    demonstealer666 New Member

    yea there is 1 technique,

    each scale has chord formation like this....

    Maj min min Maj Maj min diminished

    so Eb maj will have

    Ebmaj Fmin Gmin Abmaj CMaj Bb min DDim


    similarly minor has different formation

    min dim maj minor minor maj maj

    so A minor will have

    Amaj Bdim Cmaj Dmin Emin Fmaj Gmaj

    similarly maj key also has 7th chords
    its formation is like this........

    maj7 min7 min7 maj7 7 min7

    so c scale will have
    Cmaj7 Dmin7 Emin7 Fmaj7 G7 and Amin 7
     
  3. MARS

    MARS Mars Ji...Finally!!!!!

    Pls post such discussions in Beginners Q & A Forum..
    That forum is meant for this stuff only..
     
  4. zohaib

    zohaib Shredder

    yaaar mein nahi samjha can u define in detail plz ???
    ager ek scale mein 7 chords hein to us scale mein hum kisi ka bhi 7th or 5th use ker saktey hein ???

    pls yaaar define it in detail
    plz plz
    :)
     
  5. scot_hacker

    scot_hacker New Member

    Basically the notes you use to build up the chords must be in scale. That explains why the tonic in the scale of C gives you a major chord (as you use 1 3 5 = C E G) and the second note (D) is a minor as the notes D F A are used (F# is not in scale, right?)

    Similarly you can build up the chords taking each note of the scale as the tonic and building a triad with the available notes in scale. Also it is optional to add the seventh or play just the power chords instead of a triad.
     
  6. zohaib

    zohaib Shredder

    :(

    yaar i m talking about rythm scales
    one song is on 1 scale mostly
    so if one song is on B scale so whats the formula or technique to ind out the chords of a scale
    plz gove examples of major and minor scales
     
  7. esgallindeion

    esgallindeion Minstrel Knight

    if u want a quick guide minus the theory, here's something i had once found... it was posted by christian strowitzki...
     

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  8. prash_rocks

    prash_rocks Over the Hills & Far Away

    hmm... the circle of fifths... i'm yet to understand it fully. maybe this will help.
     
  9. sumit

    sumit HaNdS uPPP!!

    well the same pattern continues for all chords...........likely if u increase the chord by a full note u' shall get a new one
    likelyC
    F
    G
    Em
    Am
    G7
    Dm
    for this if u inrease by a a full notes it becomes..well i myself also donno the xact way/ logic to find how it was found for the first time.....
    G
    A
    F#m
    Bm
    A7
    Em
     
  10. zohaib

    zohaib Shredder

    abey yaaar.....
    pls koi bata do yeh cheez plz
    u know phir ager koi song ho kisi scale per to we could play it easily
     
  11. helion

    helion New Member

    its easy man...

    see..

    first get the scale of the song .

    how do u do that? listen to the song and identify the notes on a guitar or etc.

    now write them down in order.. from the first note(which is a lot like the percentage root note)

    get the first 7 ordered notes on a paper and write them continuously twice or twice and a half.
    like.......

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 -1 2 3 4 5 6 7 -1 2 3 4.


    now the chords you'll get in this scale are the 1,3,5 notes of the scale

    starting each note of the first 7.(the octaves u'll work would be 1-1, 2-2, 3-3..7-7)


    they end up being 1Maj, 2min, 3min, 4Maj, 5Maj, 6min, 7dim.(for a major scale)


    so C Maj scale would have:

    CMaj, Dmin, Emin, FMaj, GMaj, Amin, BDim.



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  12. jayanth

    jayanth <.: : Call Quits : :.>

    I have posted a tutorial n this in the Tutorial Forum Read it...
     
  13. jackdaws

    jackdaws New Member

    Okie dude heres an easy way to remember this...i will demonstrate this with the C major scale

    Code:
    C major Scale notes in the scale
    
    I    II    III    IV     V    VI     VII    I
    C    D     E      F     G     A      B      C
    
    Now the Chords of a Scale always follows this pattern
    
     I      II     III     IV      V       VI        VII   
    Maj     Min   Min     Maj     Maj     Min      Minb5
    
    Therefore based on this the chords in the C scale are

    C major
    D minor
    E minor
    F major
    G major
    A minor
    B minor b5

    Therefore once u get a scale u can always figure out how to get the chords...look at it this way...ask urself why should the second chord be Dminor instead of Dmajor...the explanation is simple in the Dmajor chord one of the notes is F# which does not form part of the C major scale...therefore the chord in the pattern cannot be D major...now check D minor u will find that all the notes are in the scale...thats the basic trick...u can get a similar set up for all the scales...

    good luck and have fun playing....
     
  14. jayanth

    jayanth <.: : Call Quits : :.>

    Good One Jackdaws
     
  15. varmas11

    varmas11 New Member

    A minor ?

    why did someone say that in the Aminor scale that there is an a major chord ?

    in the aminor scale there is no c#

    i made up a song just with Am F G and according to someone's theory Am is not a valid chord in the a minor scale which makes no sense. instead of a major it should be a minor? i could be horribly wrong, i really dunno that much about theory but i'm trying to learn. also when i was playing my jam, i play the notes A B C D E G A, i skip the F because it makes it sound prettier, cleaner and more harmonious. what is the reason for this? it's almost chinese or somethin. the f adds some clashing which it shouldn't... f only sounds good when you play it in a third or fourth or something. i've been tryin to figure out why this is the case for sometime. also if i'm playin abcdega is it like a hepatonic scale? i've heard of harmonic scales and stuff, but i dont feel as if a sharp or flat would add to the piece.
     

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