I screwd up... i dunno what i was thinking..... but i was so pissed that my D string kept sliding off the saddle i just pulled out all the strings!!!! its an edge III bridge ...RG370dx... the bridge has collapsed as there is no tension... i can only tune a floater but have no clue on how to set up... as i fear i have to set the angle and all... somebody help me or lead me to someone who will help me/teach me to re setup my guitar..... i am in bangalore!
i take it that u are new to floating bridges?????????? neways this may help as floyds are similar to edges........ FLOYD ROSE ORIGINAL TREMOLO - STRING CHANGING INSTRUCTIONS Step 1: Unlock the three clamps at the nut with the 3mm allen wrench provided with the guitar or bridge. Step 2: Set the fine-tuners on the bridge to the middle of there tuning range. Step 3: Change one string at a time (starting at either E string) by first loosening the string and unclamping it at the saddle with the 3mm allen wrench. Step 4: Cut the ball end off the replacement string with a pair of wire cutters. Step 5: Place the freshly cut string end into the center of the saddle and tighten the clamping screw until it is difficult to turn. Step 6: Thread the other end of the string under its nut clamp and under the string hold down bar, then to the tuning key and tune the string. [Pull on the string until it is tight around the tuning key and retune.] Step 7: Repeat 2 through 5 until all strings are replaced. Step 8: Check your tuning on all strings once again. Step 9: Re-clamp the three nut clamps. Step 10: Check your tuning once again making any adjustments this time with your fine-tuners only. FLOYD ROSE ORIGINAL TREMOLO - STRING TUNING INSTRUCTIONS Tuning your Floyd Rose bridge is certainly a tricky business when the bridge is floating. This is because the total tension of the strings must balance the total tension of the tremolo springs with the base plate of the bridge parallel to the face of the guitar and with the strings tuned to the desired pitch. So, follow these steps and and it will start to make sense. Step 1: Loosen the three string clamps at the nut Step 2: Set your fine tuner screws on the bridge to the middle of their adjustment range. Step 3: Tune the strings to your desired pitch (this can be drop tuning, open tuning, or standard pitch, the procedure is the same for any tuning) with an electronic tuner starting with the low ‘E’. Step 4: When you have finished tuning all of the strings, check the tuning on the low ‘E’ again. If the low ‘E’ is now flat, re-tune the strings starting again with the low ‘E’ but this time tune the E, A, D, G, and B strings a little bit sharp, then the high ‘E’ to pitch. If the low ‘E’ is sharp, re-tune as just described only tuning the first five strings a little flat. You must tune the strings a little sharp or flat to get to your tuning because every time you change the tension (or pitch) of one string, the other strings change pitch in the opposite direction. Step 5: Repeat step 4 until all the strings are at the desired pitch. Step 6: When the strings are at the desired pitch, check to see if the bridge base plate is sitting parallel with the top surface of the guitar. If the base plate is tilted forward away from the body, you must tighten the tremolo springs tension by turning the spring claw screws clockwise and repeat step 4. If the base plate is tilted back toward the body, you must loosen the tremolo springs tension by turning the spring claw screws counterclockwise and repeat step 4. [Step 6 only needs to be done on initial setup of the bridge or if you change to another gauge of strings or change to a different tuning.] Step 7: When the bridge is sitting parallel to the face of the guitar and the strings are tuned to the desired pitch, re-clamp the three nut clamps and re-tune (if necessary) once again using only the fine tuners. Step 8: When tuning is complete, check the action of the strings off the neck. If your action is to high or to low, adjust the action with the two rocker screws (bridge pivot screws) using the 3mm Allen wrench. This adjustment will slightly change your tuning. If your fine tuners run out of range you must repeat steps 1 through 7. FLOYD ROSE ORIGINAL TREMOLO - INTONATING YOUR BRIDGE (note - before intonating your bridge you must tune your guitar using the tuning instructions above] Check the intonation: Step 1: Tune all the strings on your guitar to an electronic tuner with all the nut clamps released. Step 2: Determine if the intonation of the string you wish to change is sharp or flat by chiming the string directly over the 12th and checking the tuning. Then, carefully press the string down to the 12th fret and check the tuning again with the string fretted. If the fretted note is flat when compared to the chimed note, then the saddle must be moved toward the nut until the chimed note and the fretted note match. If the fretted note is sharp when compared to the chimed note the saddle must be moved away from the nut until the chimed and fretted notes match. To move the saddle: Step 1: Once you have determined which direction (toward or away from the nut) to move the saddle, loosen the string until it is limp. Step 2: Loosen the attachment screw holding the saddle to the bridge plate while holding the saddle in place. Move the saddle in the desired direction a small amount (about 1/16in on the first adjustment and your best guess on subsequent adjustments) and re-tighten the screw. [Note: If the saddle will not move forward because it is resting against the attachment screw, you can move the screw to the next hole forward on the bridge plate. This will give you more adjustment range. Also, if you need to move the saddle away from the nut to a position where the attachment screw can no longer clamp the saddle firmly, you can move the screw to the next hole back on the bridge plate.] Step 3: Re-tune the string and check the intonation again using the procedure outlined above (check the intonation). Step 4: Repeat this cycle until each string is properly intonated. When you’re finished with the intonation procedure re-tighten the nut clamps. This will not change your intonation setting.
FLOYD ROSE ORIGINAL TREMOLO - CHANGING TO A DIFFERENT GAUGE STRING SET To change to a heavier gauge of strings you need to tighten the springs, reset the intonation, and possibly adjust the truss rod tension. If your not accustomed to working on guitars you may want to take your guitar to a qualified guitar repairman who is familiar with Floyd Rose systems. But if you want to try it, here’s what you do... To change to a heavier gauge of strings: Step 1: Replace all your strings with the heavier gauge strings and tune the guitar to an electronic tuner (leave the nut clamps un-clamped). Step 2: Check to see if the base plate is parallel with the body. Step 3: If the base plate seems to be tilting up away from the body, increase the spring tension and re-tune. If the base plate seems to be tilting down closer to the body, decrease the spring tension and retune. Step 4: Repeat steps 2 and 3 until the base plate is sitting parallel to the body. To intonate a Floyd Rose Bridge: Check the intonation: Step 1: Tune all the strings on your guitar to an electronic tuner with all the nut clamps released. Step 2: Determine if the intonation of the string you wish to change is sharp or flat by chiming the string directly over the 12th and checking the tuning. Then, carefully press the string down to the 12th fret and check the tuning again with the string fretted. If the fretted note is flat when compared to the chimed note, then the saddle must be moved toward the nut until the chimed note and the fretted note match. If the fretted note is sharp when compared to the chimed note the saddle must be moved away from the nut until the chimed and fretted notes match. To move the saddle: Step 1: Once you have determined which direction (toward or away from the nut) to move the saddle, loosen the string until it is limp. Step 2: Loosen the attachment screw holding the saddle to the bridge plate while holding the saddle in place. Move the saddle in the desired direction a small amount (about 1/16in on the first adjustment and your best guess on subsequent adjustments) and re-tighten the screw. [Note: If the saddle will not move forward because it is resting against the attachment screw, you can move the screw to the next hole forward on the bridge plate. This will give you more adjustment range. Also, if you need to move the saddle away from the nut to a position where the attachment screw can no longer clamp the saddle firmly, you can move the screw to the next hole back on the bridge plate.] Step 3: Re-tune the string and check the intonation again using the procedure outlined above (check the intonation). Step 4: Repeat this cycle until each string is properly intonated. When you’re finished with the intonation procedure re-tighten the nut clamps and re-tune the guitar with the fine tuner screws. This will not change your intonation setting. Since you are changing to a heavier gauge set of strings you should check the curve of the neck. A perfectly set up guitar will have a slight forward bow in the neck. If your neck has more than a slight forward bow you should tighten the truss rod until the bow is slightly forward. If your neck is perfectly straight or back bowed, you should loosen the truss rod until you get a slight forward bow. If you make a neck adjustment you may have to re-tune the guitar FLOYD ROSE ORIGINAL TREMOLO - TROUBLESHOOTING TIPS Trouble Shooting the Floyd Rose Tremolo If your bridge is an Original Floyd Rose, it should function perfectly if properly installed and properly setup. Here are some things you can check that may be adjusted incorrectly or might be damaged. Step 1: Check to see if the base plate is sitting parallel with the top surface of the guitar. If it seems to be tilted forward, toward the pickups, then you need to tighten the springs and retune the guitar and check the tilt again. If it is tilted back toward the body of the guitar loosen the springs and retune the guitar. Repeat this procedure until the bridge sits level. Step 2: Make sure the nut is attached securely by tightening the nut attachment screws. This is critical for tuning stability. Step 3: Make sure the string clamps at the nut and bridge are very tight. Step 4: Make sure the saddle intonation screws are tight. If these things have been done correctly and your bridge still does not come back to the proper pitch when using the tremolo, the knife-edges may be damaged. To check this you must remove the bridge. You can easily remove the bridge with the strings still clamped in the bridge by removing the tremolo springs. [Be sure to hold on to the bridge when removing the springs.] If you don't feel comfortable doing this, take the guitar to a good guitar repairman. Check the knife-edges. They should not be dull or rounded or chipped. If they don't seem sharp you can order a replacement base plate at www.apintl.com. The dull knife edge is a rare problem on Floyd Rose Original bridges, but is more common on licensed bridges. If your bridge says, "Licensed under Floyd Rose Patents" or similar anywhere on it, this is a licensed bridge, and "not under our quality control." If your bridge is a licensed bridge, you should contact the manufacturer of your guitar for replacement parts. If your tremolo is "floating" (i.e. you can pull up or push down on the tremolo arm) and you bend a string, the other strings will go slightly flat. This is normal operation. If you don't want this to happen you must block the tremolo so that you can't pull up on it (Edward Van Halen uses his Floyd blocked this way). When the bridge is mounted in this manner it is as stable as a fixed bridge for string bending but the trade off is the loss of subtle vibrato effects. This blocking should be done by a qualified guitar repairman.
you shoudnt have taken strings off at once without first placing a support under the bridge .. doesnt matter, lets not cry over spilt tea/anything else you might prefer hope you know what guage you were using ... put that down on a piece of paper and take your guitar to someone who can balance the bridge ... and show him the piece of paper, might make things easier for him. goodluck
ive set up my RG350 like a million timees...i can guide u if u want...but i think peter has covered it all. If u have some sort of messenger i can guide you.
Peter all this is ok if i replace the strings one by one....but i removed it all and i have to balance the bridge again..... complete resetup..... thanx man laney...ill need ur guidance...check ur pm's...and u guys know anybody in bangalore who will do it?? like reynolds or someone?
dont let anyone who doesnt know how to do it...do it. Its best that u take this oppurtunity to learn how to do it. You will need to know it anyway since you have chose the path of a two way trem
Dont Panic Same happened to me the first time around. I just put on new strings of the same guage, and the bridge came up, but a little more than normal. Thats still ok, cos I loosened the strings and tried it again, and it was ok. This link helped me in getting the final position right. https://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm - this link will help you quite a bit. Also, try putting on the 1st string, then the 6th, then the 2nd, then the 5th, and then 3rd, and then 4th. this will help bring the bridge up evenly. No point taking it anywhere, its your baby, you should learn to fix it. Take it to friends and watch and learn, but for god's sake, don't give it to someone who will not do it in front of you and charge you too, that way you will be spending money and not learning anything too.
