Ragam- Malahari Thalam- Chathurasra Rupakam Arohanam- S R, M1 P D1 S Avarohanam- S D1 P M1 G3 R1 S Counting of the talam is as follows. Beat of hand flip of hand, and then beat, count two with little finger, three with ring finger and four with middle finger. The beating and flipping is called the Dhritham, more commonly known as veechu, and the counting of the fingers is known as laghu. Tell me if you have problems interpreting my notation. The swarams with an apostrophe are the melsthai, and with a coma are kizhsthai. The way this is sung, is you sing the first line of the first stanza, first line of the second, and sing the song as follows. Do the Same with the second and third line. M P | D S' S' R' || R' S' | D P M P|| 1)Sri- | Gananatha||Sinthu| Ra-varna|| 2)Sidha|Cha-rana ||Gana |Se-vitha|| 3)Saka|lavidya - || Adi | Pu-jitha || R M| P D M P || D P | M G R S || 1)Karu|nasagara||kari |vathana-|| 2)Sidhi|vinayaka||the-|namonamo|| 3)Sar |vo-thama||the-|namonamo|| S, | R M G R || S R | G R S , || lam-|bodhara||lagu |mikara-|| R M| P D M P || D P | M G R S || am-|ba-sutha||ama |ravinutha|| S, | R M G R || S R | G R S , || lam-|bodhara|| lagu |mikara-||
good post, thanx harini can u pls enclose the notations in Code: [/code ] tags so that the text aligns better? u can edit ur post and do it.
harini, if you can.. can you record and upload some place we can download. its hard to follow the talam. I guess veechu is twice as long as laghu. your voice helps..... :gather:
Ananth or Jay can explain the 1 2 3 4 part for you with tabs??. The veechu is only two beats whereas the laghu is four..making the laghu twice as long as the veechu. The veechu is first, followed by the laghu. I have given jay a recording. he will post it when he can.
Code: Ragam- Malahari Thalam- Chathurasra Rupakam Arohanam- S R, M1 P D1 S Avarohanam- S D1 P M1 G3 R1 S Counting of the talam is as follows. Beat of hand flip of hand, and then beat, count two with little finger, three with ring finger and four with middle finger. The beating and flipping is called the Dhritham, more commonly known as veechu, and the counting of the fingers is known as laghu. Tell me if you have problems interpreting my notation. The swarams with an apostrophe are the melsthai, and with a coma are kizhsthai. The way this is sung, is you sing the first line of the first stanza, first line of the second, and sing the song as follows. Do the Same with the second and third line. M P | D S' S' R' || R' S' | D P M P|| 1)Sri- | Gananatha||Sinthu| Ra-varna|| 2)Sidha|Cha-rana ||Gana |Se-vitha|| 3)Saka|lavidya - || Adi | Pu-jitha || R M| P D M P || D P | M G R S || 1)Karu|nasagara||kari |vathana-|| 2)Sidhi|vinayaka||the-|namonamo|| 3)Sar |vo-thama||the-|namonamo|| S, | R M G R || S R | G R S , || lam-|bodhara||lagu |mikara-|| R M| P D M P || D P | M G R S || am-|ba-sutha||ama |ravinutha|| S, | R M G R || S R | G R S , || lam-|bodhara|| lagu |mikara-||
1 2 1 2 3 4 if you look at the post, iv separated two swarams, and then kept four together. The line | is to indicated separation
harini, Sorry for my ignorance.. but if I dont know the length of each beat I would not be able to figure it out. 1234 - four equal whole beats. the time of each beat depends on the tempo 1&2&3&4& - eight half beats. 1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&a - 16 quarter beats. hey Jay/kishmu, can you help me with this one?
ok so chichu, consider them as all equal whole beats, the coma signifying that you play the previous swaram for one beat longer.
u just count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 thats aadi taalam. the way they do it is very interesting. They sit in padmasana position on the floor will singing, then they slap thier thighs.. to count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 and they do it ina specific way. like slap,pinkie,ring,middle, slap,flip,slap,flip : its kinda dfficult to explain.. maybe harini or ananth222 can explain better cause what i gave was a sorta westerner lay mans perspective
this is not adi. chaturashra rupakam. iv described how to count in the intro to the song... jay..no smart comments in carnatic forum..make fun of carnatic in ur other forums
jay, thats very funny ) no matter what the talam is I am going to tap my foot. Just trying to figure out how to tap my foot. I am really making a very hard effort to learn something without being critical. Let's do what harini suggested and have fun in other forums. if you know the westerner notation for chaturashra rupakam.. pls post it.. Thx
@harini cool i missed the thaalam explanation. cool repping u. i wasnt making fun i was just trying to get someone explain it which u have already done.