Ok guys now i know this may sound a bit strange and out of the way but i just thought I'd share somethings with my fellow IGTIANs. Being low on cash for processor effects and all that I thought why not make a few processors on my own, so after a couple of google searches i came across this site called tonepad.com. They have most effects and also the PCB designs and parts list. So all my low-on-cash buddies with a little soldering experience, try these out. I find it like a puzzle, get the parts, make the pcb and then just put the parts according to the respective layouts and then solder to finish. I think flood is already way ahead on this. Making the PCB could be a bit troublesome, but these can be directly connected as most of them have small simple connections. I have around 5 home made PCB boards ready and am on my way to get the electronics installed, then soon aahhh those ***y sounds.........wohooooooooooooo and just to mention, I am in no way affiliated to tonepad.com, just found it a cool site for fx projects anyone want some info on doing their own PCB boards do a google search or if mods permit maybe I could describe my home made pcb approach here happy FXing !!!