Chords confusion finger positionings for a same chord like for G chord

hey ppl!
any1 pls help me out with this weird thing.

there r so many finger positionings for a same chord, like for G chord we have :

1)

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and many more..........................


is there any difference in their sounds??????????????
if not then y do we hv so many methods of playing the same thing.

n i know this song mere sapno ki rani....... which has the chords:

Am.................. G.................... Am
Mere sapanon ki rani kab aayagee tu....

now in this which Gchord(of the above) am i suppose 2 play :think:

 

Hi Smriti
welcome to IGT
where you learn a lot,
apart from guitaring.

Your query is called "Voicing"

FYI : though the following are not related to your actual question, you need to know certain things.
1) SAPNON ki RAANI is in Bm not Am
2) The 4 positions you have shown are ALMOST the same voice, so it really doesnt matter which of the 4 u play.

Coming back to your point:
Youre right about trying to know which chord position to play the chord.
The G major has over 10 positions on the normal guitar fretboard.
how do u know which of the 10 to play?

One of the ways to finding this out is in finding the HIGHEST NOTE u hear when that chord is played.
I can go on explaining this but before that I need you to do some homework first.

Find out 4 more positions of the G major.
NOTE: The positions should not have a SINGLE OPEN STRING

Reply back to this thread, and then I will explain further.

 

:nw:
smriti piliz reply..

 

very good explaination bandbaaja ( i got it right this time ) , indeed a nice reply ...

 

hey bandbaaja first of all that song SAPNO Ki RANI having Am chord is not my work i picked it up from this site only. i dont remember who posted it.

now u wanted me find out 4 more positons of Gmajor but am posting 20 more, this is all i cud find n it shud contain all the possible finger postions..............................


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so u see Bandbaaja i hv done enough of my home work, so no more home work

plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss......................................

atleat for a week...............

 

Sweetheart,thats a lot of effort.
I am sure many beginners would love to see this post!!!
Amazing work!!!

I didnt check all but some are also (partly) wrong
For example
in (8) you have to see that u dont play the fat bottom E and A strings
in (12) i am wondering how long you can hold on to that chord position !!!

But I am so sorry, I am not very satisfied.
I told u I dont want open strings.
most of your positions have open strings.

DONT GET ME WRONG HERE
We're trying to learn something ok?

Now thinking practically, I think I made a mistake by asking you positions of the G chord.
Maybe I should have said Bb or F or anything else.
Why I am saying this is because, these positions that u have mentioned cannot be shifted to play some other chord.
If you didnt get what I am saying, just read further...

In any case, to continue on your question
you need the G chord in positions that clearly sound different because of the highest note hit.

For that, let me put in 3 positions.
NOTE: The X instead of the string Name means you dont play that string.


1) This is the most used NON-OPEN String position
If you look at it it is nothing but the F chord position shifted to the 3rd fret.
The highest note here is the G on the first string 3rd fret.

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2) This position is the D chord position shifted to the 7th fret
Remember to not strike the bottom 3 strings.
The highest note here is the B on the first string 7th fret.

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3) This is the B chord position shifted to the 10th fret
Again here you dont play the bottom A & E strings
The highest note here is the D on the first string 10th fret.

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---------------------------------------Fret
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Play these 3 chords,
and you will see (rather you will hear)
that though they are all the G chords,
playing the same G, B & D notes,
they sound distinctly different!!

Now when you hear a song and if u know that there is a G chord to be played,
its usually not amongst the 20 positions you have displayed,
but generally speaking, its one of these 3 or of course the open G chord.

Mind you, each of these 3 positions have their own variants.
Like for example, most of your 20 positions were just variants of the Open G chord position.
Though they are important for voicing too, we are not getting into that right now.


More on this with sample songs and positions, after your feedback...

 

bandbaaja :shock::shock::shock:- awesome man

smriti would be more then happy , i am sure by the end of this session she would be a pro playing mere sapno ki rani ....

 

well bobby i dont know whether i ll b a pro or not but i really want my basics about chords 2 b strong n i dont mind beginning it with SAPNO ki RANi....... :


Bandbaaja u said some of the chords that i hv listed r ( partly or completely, i dont know that) wrong, but i am not responsible for their being wrong coz i only searched them, i dont even know whether these r actually practiced or not. (i hv edited my previous post with X markings, now hv a look n tell me whether they r still wrong n also which ones r usually used)


the fact that u r not happy with my work kind of made me unhappy coz i put all my effort in searching them.


n now if u ask me y i posted 20 more instead of 4 (which u wanted) then i was trying 2 help myself out, bcoz i was sure that next time u ll ask me 2 find 4 more n this will go on n on n on.........................................................
aur main kabhi G chord ki duniya se bahar nahi nikal paungi


i tried all the 3 positions for G chord which u hv posted n yes all of them sound different. my teacher from whom i was taking my classes earlier (not now) taught me this postion of G chord :


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i was very happy with this G chord (since it is easy while changing to C or A or any other chord) until i saw this post here at IGT, where this guy posted a different position for G chord :


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though there is not much difference in the 2 but all of a sudden i was finding it difficult 2 accept. i mean i hv practiced all the songs with the G chord(having G chord) which my teacher told me. for 2 days i was in a complete mess figuring out which 1 of them is correct, then i thought probably my teacher taught me wrong stuff. finally i decided to search for this chord n the result instead of solving my problem confused me 2 a greater level n my instant rection was OH MY GOD now what.


alright, now that i hv tried all the 3 that u hv posted, u tell me which is usually preferred. as of now i am practicing few old hindi songs. i am not
mentioning any of those coz then u ll say this is also wrong. so u bettercome up with ur post as u said containing few songs, thier chords n strumming pattern (coz i still cant figure out by listening).


reply soon................... :nw: dont make me go crazy after this G chord coz there might b many chord positions for various other chords which i dont know but i need 2 know......................................

 

This is amazing.......wow.......
@Bandbaaja, amazing explanations.
@Smriti great work.
After all this is over, i think i'll make this whole thing a lesson from a pro's point of view as well as a beginner's point of view. Cool work both of you.And smriti, keep up this work and you're sure gonna go places, seriously.

 

@d_ist_urb_ed i dont wanna go places with my problems when i know IGT hai idhar

thanks anyways.........

 

how do u guys type all those tabs? u use some special software or something?

 

nah............
cut n keep pasting.....................
so u see its damn easy :

u can also try.............................. :beer:

 

Smriti ,
Good work .. Am also a beginner confused with the chord variants..
Thanks for this posting ...

Band bhaiyaaa

:nw: - Good heavens to hav u here,.
Can u please let cont this & give us the chord variants for all notes ..
Ok i know it shd be a homework frm our end .. so i start with " A"

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Transposing the "G major " Pattern to start from 5th fret

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Transposing the "D major " Pattern to start from 9th fret

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G||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|-1-|---|---|---
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:beer:

PS: whos taking "B " - :think:


- Scorp

 

both r correct. till the time both sound same to u.. use either.. the day they start sounding different to your ears.. you will know which one to use where..

The other thing is dont just accept somethign cause your teacher said so or u found it ina chord chart.. try to figure out why a certain position resolves to a G major or an E major.

my 2 cents.

 

google for chord chart.. u will find many hits of comprehensive chord charts for all chords all voicings.

 

:nw: @bandbaaja & :nw: @smriti... 4 her tireless work

ur turn 2 reply bandbaaja

 

Man!..i din know so many possible configurations existed for a chord...I always limited myself to the 4 basic constructions: open,and (transposed) E barre shape, A barre shape and the D shape .....but practically speaking...arent these sufficient for playing nething?

 

Born Scorpio,
Youre positions are right. Good work on the A
SO basically everyone reading this post must understand now on.
That if you leave aside OPEN STRING chords and know about BASIC closed position chords, then you will know that shifting ahead in the fretboard will take you to the next chord.

For example, the F chord is the first full closed chod you learn.
Just shift the whole position ONE fret up it is F#
2 frets up it is G and so on...

Same way with the D major (the :. position wala)

and same way with the A major, (see scorpio's post for that)
Be careful when u want to convert the A to A#.
If you notice the A major X02220 has the first string open.
so if you shift your fingers from the 2nd fret to 3rd fret, be sure to make the open E into F.
meaning XX3331 will be A# (or Bb)
and XX4442 will be B
and XX5553 will be C


The best example to learning voicing of chords is Jaanejaan Dhoondta Phir Raha. Its in Cm.

Some Moderator, please tell me if instead of posting the chords and positions here, i think I should post a new thread for that.

 

Uh Smriti
Songs and chords are ok, but for strumming patterns which is out of this topic, refer to my post called the Art of Guitar Strumming

 

This sounds messy business but its GR8 ...... Keep it up both SMRITI and BANDBAJA