Amplifiers for vocals..........

Discussion in 'Guitar Gear Talk Forum' started by angel_of_sin, Aug 9, 2009.

  1. angel_of_sin

    angel_of_sin bassist.....

    Ohk so here's the catch...........My vocalist uses a 100watt guitar amp for vocals.........but his voice gets lost in our guitars connected to a 20 watts and drums...........so what according to you is the best option for vocalist to be heard with clarity........
     
  2. distorted

    distorted satan

    Dats strange.... our vocalist plugs into a 20w amp n he is quite loud... I mean rly loud...
     
  3. angel_of_sin

    angel_of_sin bassist.....

    not for us man...........our performance really sucked coz of that.........i tried lining out his output with the two 20 watts but still to no avail.............
     
  4. distorted

    distorted satan

    Vaise do u evr plan to sell those EMG 81?
     
  5. angel_of_sin

    angel_of_sin bassist.....

    they will be for sale over my grave....buy them from there.................
     
  6. distorted

    distorted satan

    Bitch.......
     
  7. distorted

    distorted satan

    N ask yr vocalist to sing loudly... Coz wid a 100 watt, managing to be inaudible is rly sad...
     
  8. ultrabot90

    ultrabot90 Like fishes need bicycles

  9. thehundredthone

    thehundredthone New Member

    What amp is he using? Did you try plugging your guitar in to see if the amp was working? What does it sound like by itself?
     
  10. flood

    flood New Member

    if you're plugging the mic into the guitar input, there is a chance it won't work. this depends on the output impedance of the microphone itself. it could also be the speaker, but i highly doubt that. i'd say there's a serious mismatch between your mic and the input of the amp. sounds like it simply can't drive the input.

    what mic is it? what amp? why are you using a guitar amp instead of something simpler like a vocal monitor?

    one option would be to connect the mic to a mic preamp and the preamp output to the poweramp input of the guitar amp. that might work. on the whole, i think you need a new mic though.
     
  11. alpha1

    alpha1 I BLUES!

    Mics have diff impedance than pickups.
    Usually mic preamps are used to bring the signal to line level and then you can use any amp (preferable flat voiced - like keyboard amp) to actually amplify.

    Another thing you can try is use a processor to do the preamping.

    If you have an access to mixer - they usually have separate mic and line-ins.
    That can be used - infact mixers are pretty good idea if you plan to go onstage.
    It will balance all the bass/guitar/vocals/keyboards.
     
  12. angel_of_sin

    angel_of_sin bassist.....

    ^^i will try to get hold of the mixer.....and a sound guy along with it....lol....
     
  13. distorted

    distorted satan

    how many local bands do it???

    @ultrabot: only if i had paisa :'(
     
  14. thehundredthone

    thehundredthone New Member

    Well technically he's going from preamp to poweramp and speakers, so the guitar pre-amp should still bring the level up right?

    I'd suspect there was something wrong with the mic, even though I agree on the need for a mic-preamp or similar.
     
  15. angel_of_sin

    angel_of_sin bassist.....

    he uses my Phillips mic which i had got for around 1.6k..........his Shure mic just cracked open a few days ago........some guarantee they give for toughness.........
     
  16. ultrabot90

    ultrabot90 Like fishes need bicycles

    That!!!

    How much is a cheapass, sasta sundar tikaoo mixer (ie capable of running the average band of say, 5 guys)? This seems cool.

    http://www.bajaao.com/behringer-xenyx-1002-channel-mixer-p-4985.html

    Sorry for a noobish question, why does a mixer have a watt rating? o.o

    @distorted - One day, you will :D
     
  17. angel_of_sin

    angel_of_sin bassist.....

  18. distorted

    distorted satan

    But do these 5-7k behringers give u enuff flexibility wid a 3-band eq n so limited inputs??? Or m percepting it incorrectly?
    Actually i never had any experience wid mixers... Just trying to undstand... Coz i wud want to undstand them if they can help in setting up sounds well in gigs...
    Hw much will a decent mixer cost wid sufficient inputs to give drums into the mix n dat can be used fr recording purpose at home studio...
    .
    N an out of the track query, hw do u guys mic the drums?
     
  19. ultrabot90

    ultrabot90 Like fishes need bicycles

    Even if we buy a goodish 10-15k mixer...the main advantage, I guess, would be that we can eq our own stuff. Not leaving it to the sound guys. This thread,and also, this post could be the reasons why. That's why I'm interested in them...but that's probably for when we hit the road.
     
  20. flood

    flood New Member

    nope. guitar outputs and mic outputs are very different - thus, the preamps required in each case are very different in terms of input structures.
     

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