acoustic guitar sustain???

Discussion in 'Guitar Gear Talk Forum' started by CARLOS SANTANA, Aug 6, 2010.

  1. CARLOS SANTANA

    CARLOS SANTANA New Member

    ok is der any software thorugh which i can add sustain to my guitar..i get a lil bit of distortion thorugh my pc using pc speakers..i want dat sustain is it possible?? nd is der any software through which i can change da bass/trebble setting of my acoustic(now a semi elec)..??
     
  2. CARLOS SANTANA

    CARLOS SANTANA New Member

    and by sustain i mean sustain for a linger period like 10-20secs without fading away.. :p is that possible?
     
  3. bcrich

    bcrich New Member

    10-20 seconds sustain on a semi? :D
     
  4. guitardoctor

    guitardoctor Will Rx for food

    Some things you can do to increase sustain

    1. Use good quality strings
    2. Do vibrato on the note
    3. Add distortion
    4. Increase the volume (duh)

    If your fretting is poor you might get poor sustain as well...
     
  5. thehundredthone

    thehundredthone New Member

    You're Carlos Santana, just ask the guitar and it'll sustain as long as you want it to.
     
  6. flood

    flood New Member

    that is pretty much exactly what i was going to type. mine was barely different: "you're carlos santana, you tell us!"
     
  7. flood

    flood New Member

    dude, it's an acoustic guitar. sustain=feedback in this case.

    i don't know why people call "acoustic guitar with a piezo/other pickup" a "semi". it's NOT the same thing. far from it.
     
  8. guitardoctor

    guitardoctor Will Rx for food

    Increasing the volume\distortion won't work with a piezo pickup? I was under the idea that if you increase the volume you will be able to hear the note for longer before it becomes inaudible to you... No matter what pickup you are using. Is this a misconception on my part?
     
  9. thehundredthone

    thehundredthone New Member

    Increasing the volume doesn't increase the duration of time for which the string vibrates, does it now. String stops vibrating, pickup stops picking up, you hear no more of the note.

    This will do the job.
    http://www.ehx.com/products/freeze
     
  10. guitardoctor

    guitardoctor Will Rx for food

    Yes, but the point of time when you stop hearing the note isn't when the string stops. The point of time when you stop hearing the note is when the amplitude of the sound wave drops below the hearing threshold of your ears. The inaudible string continues to vibrate after you have ceased to hear it, at a low amplitude.

    So if you amplify the note (i.e. raise the volume) you will get more sustain since you will be able to hear the (still vibrating) string longer.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  11. flood

    flood New Member

    this is an acoustic guitar we're talking about. ignore the audiometry for a moment and consider the physics; resonant chamber + high volumes = ?
     
  12. guitardoctor

    guitardoctor Will Rx for food

    Ummm... I don't get it, but I'll take your word for it... Can't argue with you about gear :nw:

    If you feel like explaining that'd be cool, though... Maybe I can learn something.
     
  13. flood

    flood New Member

    nothing to explain. an acoustic guitar is a lot more sensitive to ambient sound than an electric one. piezo elements are inherently ultra-sensitive anyway. anyway, an acoustic guitar is essentially a resonating chamber with thin walls, and responds well to frequencies over a fairly large range, and will acoustically transfer/amplify vibrations from external sources too. try it for yourself, plug that generic acoustic guitar in (or simpy hold it in front of your amplifier while playing your electric). when the soundhole passes over the speaker.... the air being moved is ridiculous.

    anyway, even electric guitars equipped with humbuckers feedback at high amp volumes, pretty much for the same reason. at some point of time, they're picking up vibrations physically. with an acoustic, this will happen MUCH earlier.

    this is a major reason why you can't simply plug an acoustic into a generic guitar amp - acoustic amps need careful design for sound quality, but also with respect to eliminating feedback.
     
  14. guitardoctor

    guitardoctor Will Rx for food

    Got it... Hence the feedback issue.
     
  15. thehundredthone

    thehundredthone New Member

    You'd really turn up your volume to get a 20sec sustain on your note? Just for the note or for the entire piece?
     
  16. CARLOS SANTANA

    CARLOS SANTANA New Member

    duh!! nthings gonna help.. i already play in max volume... the bends sounds cool..vibrato nd all.. its distorted.. bt ..@ hundredthone ...dat thing is cool.. bt nt for acoustic i guess. :p ... haha lmao 20 secs sustain/ feedback on acoustic impossible.. high xpectations... better buy electric soon.. :p
     
  17. ultrabot90

    ultrabot90 Like fishes need bicycles

    What about sustainers? o_O Fernandes/Sustainiac?
    That's solidbody stuff, though.
     
  18. flood

    flood New Member

    what about actually buying an electric to play distorted parts with?

    the model C sustainiac is not particularly cheap, and results WILL vary from guitar to guitar.
     
  19. CARLOS SANTANA

    CARLOS SANTANA New Member

    and hey!! when i plug into mic input da distortion i get is much more dan line input at half stage of volume knob :p... da feedback i get at full volume from line in...i get dat at less dan half step when i plug into mic in.... BUT da problem is. when i turn da knob higher (mic in).. i get a squek/sqeal.. so i cant turn it to full volume so coz it squeeks... is der any settings so dat da squeek doesnt comes... so dat i can turn up da volume.. may be i can get more distortion.. :D
     
  20. CARLOS SANTANA

    CARLOS SANTANA New Member

    arey wow!!! ho gya... its sooooo loud... feedback is audible for a bit long man!!!
     

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