A Few Guitar Tuning Tips

Discussion in 'Guitar Lessons, Tutorials & Tips' started by Zeus, Aug 8, 2003.

  1. Zeus

    Zeus New Member

    Tuning Tips: I found these on the net pretty kool

    An electronic tuner may be useful to the novice guitarist for whom tuning their guitar is probaby more demanding than actually playing it. Invest in an electronic guitar tuner. Most music shops sell them, starting at about £20 - Nov 1999. Ask to be shown how to use it if not sure. Thanks June.

    Ensure tuner receives maximum treble signal from guitar. Playing open harmonics at fret 12 particularly useful for bass guitar tuning. Beware of erroneous results from alternative string vibrations. If problems persist check battery condition.

    When tuning strings at fret 12 consider to use open harmonic note. Hold finger lightly against string directly above fret and remove immediately after plucking string. The middle of the string is pacified whilst the two halves vibrate a clear bell like tone. Most useful for ensuring an accurate steady note for comparing/tuner. Also allows hand to turn tuning machine whilst note is sounding. Natural harmonics can usually be found at frets with position markers.

    When tuning a stringed instrument always 'tune up' with the string under tension to ensure it stays in tune and does not slip due to latent friction e.g. at the nut, tuning peg, string guide.

    When tuning - ideally using an electronic tuner, if you find a string is a little sharp DO NOT detune it. Stretch the string by pulling it away from the fretboard in about three positions (over pickups, over twelfth fret and over fifth fret). Check tuning again - repeat until spot on. String will stay in tune longer with this road tested method. Thanks to Frank Laughton

    Use this mnemonic adapted from TeachGuitar.com to aid learning names of open guitar strings:
    Elephants And Donkeys Grow Big ears

    Consider to tune individual strings to these online strings. Click on highlighted notes for corresponding tones. Continuous playback Windows Media select:
    <View Options Repeat forever>

    Standard pitch tuning:


    Diagrams represent neck and show corresponding notes when guitar is in tune. Tuning pegs top, body below. Top letters indicate open string name. Left vertical line is low E thick string. Right vertical line is top e thin string.

    E_A_D_G_B_e |_|_|_|_|_|





    Tune open A string to pitch of online A string

    Tune string E fret 5 to string A open

    Tune string D open to string A at fret 5

    Tune string G open to string D at fret 5

    Tune string B open to string G at fret 4

    Tune string e open to string B at fret 5

    An alternative tuning method uses octaves of the same note for tuning all the strings. Tune all six strings by comparing A tones at different octaves and different strings with the open string A. This approach has the advantage that all the strings are compared to the same string (A) and not to each other, so any errors on the tuning of one string do not propagate.

    String A: Compare to pitch of online A string

    String E: Compare note fret 5 to open string A

    String D: Compare note fret 7 to open string A

    String G: Compare note fret 2 to open string A

    String B: Compare note fret 10 to open string A

    String e: Compare note fret 5 to open string A

    Jet Harris, formerly with the Shadows instrumental group, used alternative tuning on a six string guitar to record the hit single Diamonds. All strings were tuned one tone down. Many groups use alternative tuning. A favourite is to tune the guitar a semitone down e.g. Kurt Cobain of Nirvana, Slash of Guns & Roses, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Metallica. This facilitates easier string bending as less tension is required to tune a lower note. The tone or voice of the instrument alters and may become distinctive.

    Slack - semitone flat tuning:

    Listen for pulsing sound as you tune two notes together. Pulsing is caused by the sum and difference of the two notes you are comparing as you tune. The pulsing gets slower as you approach closer to being in tune and eventually stops when optimum tuning is achieved.

    Pipes can be obtained for single notes as well as for all six strings of the guitar. Single pipes are usually set at 'A' with a frequency of 440Hz which matches the fifth fret of the first string. Tuning forks are an alternative to a single pipe and some people prefer the cleaner sounding tone that they produce. Pipes and tuning forks are relatively cheap and easy to carry.

    Sounding board for an electric guitar without amplifier e.g. tuning in a dressing room; hold headstock against cupboard or door to enhance volume.

    Access more string/tuning tips at New Strings

    2. 440Hz ¥

    After the early morning BBC2 Open University transmission the test card with the young girl and blackboard has a 440Hz 'A' tone.

    Useful tuning reference, providing you wake up in time ;)

    Guestbook feedback: 'The French telephone dial-tone is also at 440Hz.' Thankyou.

    Unknown source: You can dial up 440Hz to tune your violin in Vienna, Austria.

    3. Tuning Fork
    A tuning fork may be faint to hear at a live gig. Hold the vibrating fork over an electric guitar pick-up for amplification through amplifier.

    BTW: A vibrating tuning fork held against a spider's web will simulate a struggling entangled insect thus enticing the spider from it's lair. Remember where you heard it first ! ;)

    4. String G
    If on a restricted budget and strings require changing due to tuning/intonation problems consider changing string G (3rd) only. This is the most critical string, especially to the rhythm guitarist, as it is used in most chords and tends to be the first string to impair intonation.

    5. Intonation
    String saddles at bridge are adjustable for optimum intonation. Modern electronic tuners make this task easier. Always make your guitar intonation checks in the playing position as they may vary when guitar is laid on a bench.

    The open harmonic note (lightly momentarily touch string at fret 12 as you play it to produce octave bell like tone) should be the same as the note fretted at the 12th fret for each string. If the string is too long or short intonation will suffer.

    If the harmonic note at fret 12 is higher than the fretted note at fret 12 the string is too short.

    If the harmonic note at fret 12 is lower than the fretted note at fret 12 the string is too long.

    Change the length of each string by string saddle adjustment after detuning to allow movement of saddle, then retune to check.

    Only attempt this with new strings fitted and be aware that different types of string may require fresh intonation adjustments.

    6. Trem / Tremolo / Vibrato Arm Adjustments
    The word trem or tremolo is a misnomer as it means a variation of volume. It is often used instead of vibrato meaning a variation of pitch.

    Pitch-diving is a wonderful means of expression but increases the risk of tuning problems.

    Some modern styles of Stratocaster have graphite nut (string guide) roller nut / locking nut with fine tuners and locking machine heads etc.

    On a vintage style of Stratocaster, Vaseline grease (first choice) or a drop of lubricant e.g. WD40 applied to the string guide / grooves of the nut, when strings are changed, reduces friction and helps keep guitar in tune especially when using the tremolo / vibrato arm.

    I use a clean nail varnish bottle and brush (to store and apply WD40 - especially useful when required for electrical contacts) as aerosol can is too coarse for fine application.

    Graphite in the form of pencil lead is also an effective and convenient lubricant but may look unsightly on a white nut.

    Take care to remember that the mechanism is balanced by strings and springs, consideration for both is required to avoid damage. The Stratocaster tremelo / vibrato features a 'floating' bridge which will often require repeat tuning until finally settled. If a string should break then all the other strings will be affected due to the change in tension on the mechanism.

    Consider to lubricate / grease all moving points of contact e.g. springs / screws to plates if appropriate, within mechanism. Aim to reduce all string and mechanism friction to a minimum. Protect non varnished wood from lubricants to avoid staining.

    Use outside screws on bridge plate to set angle of bridge plate from guitar body. Any inner screws set 1/16 inch or 1.5 mm high above bridge plate. The bridge will now pivot on outside screws, leaving inner screws (if fitted) for bridge stability. Lubricate bridge contact points. This excellent tip was sourced and adapted from 'Tremolo Tricks and Tips' by Jack Schwartz in Fender frontline magazine Volume 26 July-Dec 1999.

    I use a stiff adjustment on the springs with bridge plate heel set 1/16 inch or 1.5 mm above body achieved by adjusting the two large spring plate screws located under plastic cover at back of guitar body and above mentioned bridge plate screws.

    Set the springs, my guitar has three, tight enough to ensure no movement of tremolo / vibrato arm when string G (3rd) is bent one tone at fret 12. In fact I achieve required tension by screwing in the two large Tremelo springs adjustment screws so that spring plate is 1/8 inch or 3 mm away from adjacent internal cavity wall.
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  2. Zeus

    Zeus New Member

    For maximum pitch dive-dive effect hold tip of arm over centre of strings. After use consider bending strings, that are prone to stick sharp, one tone near fret 12 to release friction if necessary. Incorporate this into end of solo.

    My electric guitar string gauges are:

    .008 .011 .014 .028 .036 .050 inches.

    0.23 0.28 0.36 0.71 0.92 1.27 millimetres.

    Consider to apply a thin tinning of solder to ball end string windings to prevent slippage.
    Caution: avoid inhaling fumes from soldering.

    7. Tuning Drums
    Snare: Top skin push down and tighten as much as possible to take out all wrinkles and be really tight. Tune bottom skin to be one tone lower than top skin. Snare springs not to be too tight.

    Tom Toms: also top skin tune one tone higher than bottom but not as tight as snare - just enough to take out wrinkles.

    Tune high Tom Tom one tone higher than side drum and tune intermediate Tom Tom between these two.

    p.s. some drummers tune their kit to the open strings of a bass guitar. Thanks Brian.

    Hi Bob, just came across your site, re your drum tuning tips you should mention that the tension bolts are turned by the opposite and by equal ammounts, if you have ever had to tune hand tuned timpani not (pedal timps) you will know what I mean.
    All the best, Kevin Halford (BA mus)RSC,LRAM

    Have Fun!!!:D :D
  3. HellRazor

    HellRazor New Member

    Hey kool, i will post a few too.
  4. 6String_assasin

    6String_assasin The Painkiller

    tune wit harmonics (5th n 7th fret)... they r also used to check intonation as they have a purer sound n coz of the phenomenon of beat tones..
    beat tones r generated wen 2 pitches r close but not quite the same... for example.. if an A is vibrating(440 Hz) wit another note just a little flat, at say 436 Hz..u'll be able to hear 4 beat tones or pulses per sec. as u go on fine tuning it the beats slow down n eventually disappear..
    recognizing beat tones may b slightly difficult at first..but wit practice u will develop n ear for 'em.
  5. fictional_real

    fictional_real Pyaasi Jawani

    whoa!! ...gotta have 2 days to read dat!!
  6. d_ist_urb_ed

    d_ist_urb_ed Genuflect b*tches!

    Wow, very very comprehensive post. Amazing work, Zeus.

    BIG_EVIL Guitaring Machine

    Half step down????????HOW..what do i do
  8. coolgirl_babe

    coolgirl_babe ~STOP TRYING TO BE ME~

    Good one Zeus. It was really good.

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    good jeus.........very good ............coz it was good and u told tht clearly tht not u r work!

  10. ssslayer

    ssslayer Banned

    i can do one addition to this marvellous thread ...

    when doing realtive tuning ... i.e using one string to tune the second one ... it is better to go from thinner to thicker strings ...

    i.e. first get the highest E (1st string) correct ... then tune B string according to high E ... and so on ...
    this way i have noticed u dont need to keep on adjusting all the strings again ...
    whereas if u go from thick string to thin ... u need to come back to the thick strings for readjustments ...
  11. vishwa_81us

    vishwa_81us Banned

    yeah i totally agree with ssslayer... its easier if we go from thin to thick strings.. i also do that way ...

    vishwa :cool:
  12. mr singh

    mr singh New Member

    well done zeus, this here seems 2 b a pretty comprehensive tuning guide.
    the only thing i hav 2 say is isnt the 4th string d the most important/ likely 2 break, or is that just in classical guitar, cos u hav written string 3, G.
    neway on the whole it is useful and informative.
    yes i also agree with ssslayer also that it works better from higher pitch 2 lower pitch
  13. PhO3nIX

    PhO3nIX New Member

    U dont have to work so much on Guitar Tuning. go to download.com and search ENABLE TUNER and Download it. Its the best tuner I ever had.
  14. *+*neel_pori*+*

    *+*neel_pori*+* Double Poster

    how much gb does it take?
  15. *+*neel_pori*+*

    *+*neel_pori*+* Double Poster

    thanks it worked
  16. ershrish

    ershrish New Member

    excellent job ...
  17. vykrant_zone

    vykrant_zone New Member

    good one zeus. thanks
  18. thunderbolt

    thunderbolt New Member

    err..first of all you need to have a good guitar to have good tuning.. thats all I can add..
  19. d_ist_urb_ed

    d_ist_urb_ed Genuflect b*tches!

    ^Thank you for that entirely unnecessary and painfully obvious comment.
  20. erutu

    erutu terminally awesome

    You're definitely smarter than the Chinese! *Hi-five*

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