Hello all, I just began guitar learning 2 months back but i had to leave the classes due to some reason. I have one major doubt. see, the "saa" of Indian classic music correcponds to note "C" of western music, right? so there are 6 "C"s on the guitar fret(till 11th fret), each one on a differnet string. so that means there should be 6 ways to play sargam on guitar(till 11th string)!! so even if i play this thing on my guitar ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- -------------------------2----4----5------- ----------2----3----5---------------------- -3---5------------------------------------- it still sounds like "saa re gaa maa......" and the first note of this thing(3rd fret on 6th string) is "G".. so my question is why and how? why are there unlimited ways to play sargam on guitar fret when there are just 6 "C" notes till 11th fret? Help Needed!
Sa re ga ma or Do re mi fa etc are nothing but major scale intervals. 1st note <1 fret gap> 2nd note <1 fret gap> 3rd note <no gap> 4th note <1 fret gap> 5th note <1 fret gap> 6th note <1 fret gap> 7th note <no gap> 8th/1st note Is the major scale interval pattern. You can start this pattern with any note you want - A or B or C etc ... try it. It will sound similar.
Taking a C major scale... You can play it anywhere starting with a C note... The notes involved will be CDEFGAB... If you wanna stick to the C major scale but you start off with a D note the order will be DEFGABC which a D Dorian mode... Thing to note is that the notes played are same as C major scale but starting point is different and so is the sound/mood... Modes are nothing but moods.. For e.g. E Phrygian which also have same notes as the C major scale (EFGABCD) will sound a little sad as compared to the C major scale
Thanx for the help ok so the thing is that all major scales sound the same.. that is "saa re ga ma..." or "do re mi....".. the only differnece is ki the pitch of the sound is changed.. am i correct?? ok.. i have another doubt(and many more ).. has major scale given birth to every other scale? if yes, den what is the need of other scales? i mean wat cud they do with other scales which they cudnt do with major scale??
Lovely thread guys.. thanks for the help. Piyush Sir, In C major scale, sa re ga ma is played as C D E F G A B C... In D major scale, Sa re ga ma is played as D E F# G A B C# D.... If you try D E F G A B C D, then the pattern of Sa re ga ma is disturbed. So, using the above formula stated by alpha1, we can play Sa at many places... just the pitch changes. Also,you have mentioned 6Cs... infact, the Cplayed on 7th fret of sixth string and 3rd fret of fifth string are one and the same. So are 10th fret of fourth string, fifth fret of third string and first fret of second string. Regards, Abhay
oh yeah.. great point.. yeah i know they are they same.. abhishek, can you help me with another thing? is the major scale father of all the scales?? if so, why were other scales made? how do we use the scales actually.? i know there are scales blues, 3 minors, major, pentatonic, blues.. and i can play them too.. but what i really dont know is that how , when and why are they used? i hope u help
That's a wrong concept you got there mate... The Sa corresponds to the first note of the major scale you are playing (ionian mode implied)... So if you play the C major scale, the C note will be your Sa, D will be your Re and so on... If you play the G major scale, G will be your Sa, A will be your Re and so on... If you play tlhe Bb major scale, B will be the Sa, C will be your Re.. It goes like that... But if you talk in terms of Do Re Mi etc, then you can say that the C note is Do, D note is the Re, E note is Mi, B is Ti and so on, since the song is in the Chromatic scale, that is the C major scale, which is the simplest major scale consisting of only the octave notes, no sharps or flats...
can you help me with another thing? is the major scale father of all the scales?? if so, why were other scales made? how do we use the scales actually.? i know there are scales like blues, 3 minors, major, pentatonic, blues.. and i can play them too.. but what i dont know is that how , when and why are they used?
well bro you should learn western guitar.. You should give TRINTY GUILDHALL EXAM on staff notations.. where do you live.. i live in jaipur my no is 0141 2720333 . Call me after 29 sept 2012 . i will tell you -Sanket Maheshwari
