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    That choking sensation when you listen to few songs ...

    How many get that?

    Today morning I was listening to Yanni - One Man's dream and Nostalgia
    Don't know why or how there was this intense feeling that happens before crying (yes I remember the childhood days).
    But I was laughing.

    Perhaps this is what is hackneyed in Hindi movies as ख़ुशी के आंसू

    Ever experienced?
    Doesn't happen with all your songs (even the favourite ones)
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    It doesn't happen to me with a particular song really...most recenty, I think Gary Moore's solo in Always gonna love you gets me choked up. It really does wrench my guts out...another one of the kind is Alvin Lee in the Bluest Blues (Ten Years After). These aren't the khushi ke asoon type tear jerkers....for that, maybe the braveheart theme by Enya? Even that is due to context I suppose so no, no khushi ke asoon for me.
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    It happens to me mostly when i see a band play live and they play some really good solo or even for a good vocal part... It happens for certain songs as well....So yes it does happen to me...

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    ummm .. maybe every night in my dreams..or some other soft english songs
    and hindi .. umm kuch is trah .. bye atif and chup chup..by jal..
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    I am used to moist eyes with movies.What I could never understand is what changed after I started learning music. I lost all the emotion related to music. Earlier I used to listen to the song as a whole, enjoy the feeling (me being the more emotional type), one of them being: Backstreet boys - Quit playing games with my heart & Show me the feeling of being lonely.Now I just listen to music as a composition made using different instruments...like wow, this rhythm here, that solo there, is good, or maybe the piano. I can no more listen to the song as a whole, hence no choking feeling.Does it happen to anyone else too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by horsesmouth View Post
    I am used to moist eyes with movies.What I could never understand is what changed after I started learning music. I lost all the emotion related to music. Earlier I used to listen to the song as a whole, enjoy the feeling (me being the more emotional type), one of them being: Backstreet boys - Quit playing games with my heart & Show me the feeling of being lonely.Now I just listen to music as a composition made using different instruments...like wow, this rhythm here, that solo there, is good, or maybe the piano. I can no more listen to the song as a whole, hence no choking feeling.Does it happen to anyone else too?
    with shitty music, yes <3

    but on a serious note, yeah it does....but that is only because you're not concentrating enough. Later, you sometimes start to hear not the whole song but all the instruments at once...and it makes it better for me when I do that. Then I'm not just concentrating on the most obvious aspect of the song but also everything that backs it up to make it sound better. Take for example this song by Gary Moore which has one of my favourite guitar solos:

    GARY MOORE - Always Gonna Love You Video - Patty-Teddy - MyVideo


    I've always loved the solo (begins around the 1:50 mark) but what really made it special was when I got good headphones and discovered the synth and bass combo in the background....they're just hitting the chord but it sounds so good!


    Also, to answer your original question, there are some songs that I don't like but they have some great parts in them....but I usually think of songs as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjr View Post
    with shitty music, yes <3

    but on a serious note, yeah it does....but that is only because you're not concentrating enough. Later, you sometimes start to hear not the whole song but all the instruments at once...and it makes it better for me when I do that. Then I'm not just concentrating on the most obvious aspect of the song but also everything that backs it up to make it sound better. Take for example this song by Gary Moore which has one of my favourite guitar solos:

    GARY MOORE - Always Gonna Love You Video - Patty-Teddy - MyVideo


    I've always loved the solo (begins around the 1:50 mark) but what really made it special was when I got good headphones and discovered the synth and bass combo in the background....they're just hitting the chord but it sounds so good!

    Edit: I loved the solo, especially since I love solos more than rhythm.

    BTW I'm not really good at rhythm playing, I dunno why? I can arpeggiate well enough to compensate, but it doesn't work well with hindi songs like those by silk route or strings, the reason why most non-playing people don't consider highly of me, not that it mattered anyway.

    Also, to answer your original question, there are some songs that I don't like but they have some great parts in them....but I usually think of songs as a whole.
    I want to think of songs as a whole, I can't anymore. That's why I can't enjoy their essence, except a few, where every element seems to be just perfect.
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    And I loved the solo. Especially since I like solos more than rhythm. I've seen people just racing up and down in the name of soloing. Guitar technicalities. But no feeling. Solos look good only if they have that feel. Which is why I like Slash while I don't really favour Kirk Hammet.
    I can't really figure out why I'm not so good at rhythm. I can arpeggiate well enough to compensate, though it doesn't work well for hindi songs like those by Silk route and Strings that require some fast strumming, which is why non-playing people believe I'm not that good :D lol
    Its hilarious, but I always keep dropping the plectrum, though at the start I hold it proper: book-style.
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    Ohh yes it does happen. This bloody "Coldplay - Fix you" song does tht to me all the time. These things are pretty common with me. When i listen to such songs everything around me just slows down. And i enjoy everybit of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by horsesmouth View Post
    And I loved the solo. Especially since I like solos more than rhythm. I've seen people just racing up and down in the name of soloing. Guitar technicalities. But no feeling. Solos look good only if they have that feel. Which is why I like Slash while I don't really favour Kirk Hammet.
    I can't really figure out why I'm not so good at rhythm. I can arpeggiate well enough to compensate, though it doesn't work well for hindi songs like those by Silk route and Strings that require some fast strumming, which is why non-playing people believe I'm not that good :D lol
    Its hilarious, but I always keep dropping the plectrum, though at the start I hold it proper: book-style.
    I'd advise you to not think of solos being seperate from rhythm...the rhythm is as much a part of it as the melody. One of the reasons you don't like the racing up and down of some of the players is the distinct monotonity they seem to generate. You really can't do much in music without a great sense of rhythm....one of the reasons I dropped the idea of being a guitarist.

    A sense of rhythm is something you're blessed with....if you're not, you can work on it and get better by practicing. As cliched as it might sound, the more you practice the better you'll get at it. I'd advise you to stop compensating for rhythm inadequacy by arpeggiating and learn to strum better.

    A lot of people tend to think of the "lead guitarist" as the great guitarist and the "rhythm player" as filling up numbers....probably true in most amateur bands but not otherwise. In terms of analogy in attitude, I'd equate the lead player vs rhythm as the same argument that you make for deck side vs engine side.

    For thinking of songs as a whole, it will happen again eventually...give it time.
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    for thinking of songs as a whole, once needs to appreciate classical music.

    try listening to a song (if you can call it that, it's actually in the format of classical movements) by Godspeed You! Black Emperor. about 13 musicians or so for most of their albums..you simply can't take any instrument separately and say 'yeah, that's what i'm talking about'. it's the magic that they create together which has the energy rumbling ..

    long, i know..but worth it: Godspeed You! Black Emperor - East Hastings [HD, full song] - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjr View Post
    I'd advise you to not think of solos being seperate from rhythm...the rhythm is as much a part of it as the melody. One of the reasons you don't like the racing up and down of some of the players is the distinct monotonity they seem to generate. You really can't do much in music without a great sense of rhythm....one of the reasons I dropped the idea of being a guitarist.


    A sense of rhythm is something you're blessed with....if you're not, you can work on it and get better by practicing. As cliched as it might sound, the more you practice the better you'll get at it. I'd advise you to stop compensating for rhythm inadequacy by arpeggiating and learn to strum better.


    A lot of people tend to think of the "lead guitarist" as the great guitarist and the "rhythm player" as filling up numbers....probably true in most amateur bands but not otherwise. In terms of analogy in attitude, I'd equate the lead player vs rhythm as the same argument that you make for deck side vs engine side.


    For thinking of songs as a whole, it will happen again eventually...give it time.
    I do believe rhythm is more important, and I can identify/create rhythm patterns well, just a little difficult to play them. Strumming better is my next objective though.
    Arpeggiating does sound better but it cannot be used everywhere. I did experience that its a little more difficult to strum freely on an electric guitar than an acoustic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morbid_Angel View Post
    for thinking of songs as a whole, once needs to appreciate classical music.


    try listening to a song (if you can call it that, it's actually in the format of classical movements) by Godspeed You! Black Emperor. about 13 musicians or so for most of their albums..you simply can't take any instrument separately and say 'yeah, that's what i'm talking about'. it's the magic that they create together which has the energy rumbling ..


    long, i know..but worth it: Godspeed You! Black Emperor - East Hastings [HD, full song] - YouTube
    That's a classic example, and I believe you are right. Its best when you can't really seperate different instruments. Their harmony together creates a class piece.


    But some songs with just 1 or two instruments and not even classical also make you feel like listening to them over and over again.
    For eg.: James Blunt - Tears and Rain


    A friend of mine gave me this example of simplicity. That has a great feeling too.
    Plain White T's - Hey there Delilah
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    Eudaiomonia Overture by Paul Gilbert
    Azure Haze by Jeff Loomis
    Gone by Andy Timmons
    Just try hearing these you'll feel the goosebumps.

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    well yes i second mymusicmyguitar and bjr for those lovely songs fix you and bluest blues..,(i really liked the way the saxophone player was playing that 'horny' instrument...)
    well this song reminds me of my school days

    What A Wonderful World By Louis Armstrong With Lyrics - YouTube

    and one more song which i heard recently was

    Eva Cassidy-Autumn Leaves - YouTube

    OMG what a terrific singer
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    haha, you've never heard Eva Cassidy before? She has so many amazing songs, it's scary....she was touted the best voice of her generation and died like they all do.
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