@ Abhi : The Autotrimmer has more than one winding around it.. Not a single one..
@ Abhi : The Autotrimmer has more than one winding around it.. Not a single one..
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Do you have a link to the site? I'd like to see it too....Originally Posted by hindiRox
Any website? Because I couldn't find any link ANYWHERE for any auto-trim tuner made by any company which is not locking and which doesnt trim after just one wind...I'd be interested to know where its available and what special use the auto-trim is put to in that caseOriginally Posted by hindiRox
Dude.. Its the same that you showed me.. But you can make it wind moer than once.. Trimming is to remove extra string thats all.. When it trims it obviously locks the string.. BUt the purpose of it is not to Keep the tuning properly.. Even if it locks the string, the peg can move.. Thats where floyd rose helps..
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree:-)
The purpose of auto trim is not to keep the tuning in place.. Its JUST TO TRIM the strings..
Yes, the purpose of the trim is to trim the string after one turn
But why is the trim required?
Because the locking mechanism on the tuner only works when the string is cut after one turn
And despite your claim that your tuner is not locking, it is (Check the website).
And it also cuts the string after one turn.
Since you dont need locking tuners with a FLoyd Rose locking nut, ergo you also dont need auto-trimmers.
I talked to Luthier and confirmed on it.. So i dont need to keep arguing here..
What is the Purpose of a Cutting Plier.. TO CUT THE EXTRA STRING OF..
Thats an added feature of the Auto Trimmer thats all.. Rest of it acts as a tuning key..
Just tell me, if it cuts off extra string and locks the tuning. What happens if i need to down tune?? LOL....
Info From Planet Waves Executive :
These precision-designed tuning machine with built-in hardened steel string cutters and individual string clamps are real time-savers. The patent-pending design cuts excess string while you tune, eliminating the need for extra tools. Individual string clamp securely holds string in tuner, so there is no need to for multiple wraps around the tuning post. Rugged die-cast outer casing houses precision-machined 18:1 bevel and worm gears, providing smooth, exact tuning, while virtually eliminating backlash and slippage. The string clamp and cutting mechanism makes the chore of restringing a snap.
Planet Waves Auto Trim Tuning Machines 6 In-Line Features:
* Precision-designed tuning machine
* Built-in hardened steel string cutters
* Cuts excess string while you tune
* Eliminates the need for extra tools
* Individual string clamp securely holds string in tuner
* Rugged die-cast outer casing houses precision machined 18:1 bevel and worm gears for smooth, exact tuning
* Eliminates backlash and slippage
so there is no need to for multiple wraps around the tuning post.
On the same page where you linked, go and watch the demo:
Note where the string is cut off...after one turn
And you can unlock locking tuners by turning the clamp on the backside of the neck..retune and tighten back
Dude have you ever used locking tuners before?
Or done elementary mechanics?
And please dont tell me the Planet Waves are not locking..they are...do a google search for it....any site that sells them advertises them as Auto-trim Locking tuners. Other companies that do this auto-trim like Sperzel also do it only for locking tuners..becuase noone would pay a premium for a tuner that very expensively has a substitute for a set of pliers built in.
There is no way for excess string to be cut automatically after 6-7 turns..at what point does the trimmer decide where to cut off the string? All trimmers cut it at the first turn..go look at the flash demo at the site.
Dude go get your basics right first.. I think i have much much more experiences with Guitars than you.. Cause you just arguing for the sake of it. I have a good line of guitars here with me i have used and tested a lot of equipment and SEEN AUTO TRIMMERS.. I only asked cause i wanted to know whether the fit the guitar i'm using.. I dont want to know what it does from you(Especially you) In any case now i confidently know how much knowledge you have..
Just go thru you my posts once again..
Here is a little summary about the Auto Trimmer :-
* It trims after one wind(Meaning one TURN).. I can push more string into it turn it once and cut excess.. Then i can have multiple wraps around the post..
* The product link i gave you is a AUTO TRIM and NOT A LOCKING TUNER..
* No, i have not used LOCKING TUNERS - I HAVE SEEN AUTO TRIM TUNERS.
* I'm graduating as an Engineer and done quite a bit of Mechanics. Seems evident that you havent even done that..
* PLANET WAVES ARE NOT LOCKING - THEY JUST TRIM THE EXCESS..
* NO website advertises them as locking tuners.. You are contradicting yoruself..
"And please dont tell me the Planet Waves are not locking..they are...do a google search for it....any site that sells them advertises them as Auto-trim Locking tuners."
* Any good musician will look at quality and not money.. By good musicians i mean people with good amount of knowledge.
* Yet again you are contradicting yourself..
"There is no way for excess string to be cut automatically after 6-7 turns..at what point does the trimmer decide where to cut off the string? All trimmers cut it at the first turn.."
It does cut out at the first turn..
So here are my notes for you :
1. Firstly, You want them to be called locking tuners.. Then you dont.. So you are mentally unstable about that fact.. Make up your mind..
2. They are Auto Trimmers..
Check this page out and read the product title..
Find any point that calls these as LOCKING TUNERS..
3. Dude, next time you try arguing, try to do so not for fun.. At no point your posts were helpful, the point of this being a forum is gone.. Gear Talk.. Supposed to help people with gear.. And here you are just misleading people.. God! I pity your bandmates(if any)..
4. Lastly... Some MECHANICS for you : Any part of the string can be locked.. As in your post before the previous one, The Locking mechanish need not work ehn the string is cut off.. You can lock the string at any point, Not cut it and still leave it locked.. I'm not talking about planet waves here.. Its just elementery mechanics.. The trimmer is just "TO TRIM THE STRING".. The" TRIMMING" has "NOTHING" to do with "LOCKING" or "TUNING a GUITAR"..
So here we go.. I have highlighted some point for you.. And Dude one more thing.. Dont try to edit your posts.. The just tell how lame you are.. I have quoted the points i require.. Just edit whatever you want now.. Wont matter to me..
Official press release from Planet Waves:
Planet Waves introduces new Auto-Trim Tuning Machines, a Ned Steinberger design. The Auto-Trim Tuning Machines' patent-pending design automatically cuts off excess string while the guitarist tunes up, so extra cutting tools are no longer required! An individual string clamp holds the string tightly in the tuner, so there's no need for multiple wraps around the tuning post, and a precision 18:1 gear ratio provides smooth, exact tuning, while virtually eliminating backlash and slippage.
Q.E.D..they are locking
Further links where they are advertised as locking:
Planet Waves Auto-Trim Locking Guitar Machines
These machines do it all; tuning, locking and string cutting. 18:1 gear ratio. Set of 6.
PLANET WAVES AUTO-TRIM TUNING MACHINES
3 on-a-side guitar tuning machines, tuning machine cuts excess string while tuning guitar. These are also locking machines to help prevent slippage. 18:1 gear ratio, chrome finish. ..
Planet Waves AutoTrim chrome, Steinberger-designed, locking mechanism with integrated wire cutter
I edited it solely becuase I had written the word washer instead of clamp.
And as for your posts being useful, lines like "Dude, are you dreaming?", "You big noob" (note lack of grammar) are hardly useful to anyone.
And since you now claim that the string only winds once (which is true and what I've been saying throughout), one of your old messages: "Dude.. Its the same that you showed me.. But you can make it wind moer than once.. ".
Another thread on the net where someone shares my opinion:
"yeah. I think those planet waves are also auto trim ( it will cut the wire for you). Kinda pontless on a double locking FR equipped guitar. But for non locking trems and people who abuse hardtails it works good.."